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  1. pirate562007

    pirate562007 New Member

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    Ok tonite I had my first race against a 98 z28 camero. It was an auto matic and I couldn't help but notice my loss's when I was shifting. I have never WOT shifed cause in my personal opinion i'm pretty quick getting through the grears. I also don't have a short throw either.

    Is the WOT a good idea during a race? Or is it way to hard or your tranny and it shouldn't be done!! please let me know your guys view on this.

    p.s I lost the first run from a dead stop, the 2nd run was from a 25mph roll and I got him on that one. cops were hot so we didn't do another. I have boost leaks and am in need of a tune up so I kind of chuckle have to my slef.
     
  2. Mains

    Mains Pobody's Nerfect

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    WOT is not going to be nice on any driveline. It will increase the wear on components, and you will be running the motor up pretty damn high. I can tell you this, on my S0 though WOT is not a "feature" I do feel the car pull very hard through the next gear.

    So yes expect for things to eventually break, but you will notice the car pull very hard.
     
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    I am correct on this, WOT, is shifting without letting off the gas correct? I just didn't wanna make an assumption and really screw somehing up!
     
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    Mains Pobody's Nerfect

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    bury the gas and rip that shifter into gear :ilovesrtc:
     
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    so don't push in the clutch?
     
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    Mains Pobody's Nerfect

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    push in the clutch...:bigwink:
     
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    K so i guess next time after I fix my boost leak and give my car the tune up it needs I will have to try this. He want's a rematch, I told him he better have enjoyed it this time, next time I will have agp wga and 3in tbe 02 housing and a prolly sum sort of tunig device.
     
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    I haven't had any trouble yet. I don't WOT shift 1st to 2nd, but from 2nd to 3rd to 4th.

    Don't make WOT shifting your standarding technique and you should be fine depending on how much racing you do:sly:
     
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    wot shifting is the only type of shifting to do when racing. if you're not then you're wasting your time.

    get a wot box, it makes it much easier to shift and does less damage on the trans.
     
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    Doesn't Stage 1 have a WOT shift feautre so you don't lose as much boost between shifts or some shit.
     
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    Yes, Stage 1 has the WOT shift feature (holds boost) and I don't even use it...

    I'm sorry but if this is your daily driver there's no sense in WOT shifting to cut a few tenths or gain some. All your doing is causing damage to the transmission and eventually it will catch up with you.

    In other terms... you miss a wot shift or mess up while doing it you could end the life of your transmission.

    Running the Camaro from a dead stop and losing means he got you off the launch. These cars from a dig on street tires = FAIL. Unless your used to launching the car on street tires and know how to get the most grip out of them from a dig.

    That roll was a pretty low roll. Any higher I would of said to just brake boost.
     
  12. Cheatek

    Cheatek SRT once, SRT always

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    This used to be called "power shifting", dang I'm getting old, lol! And yes, you will break stuff doing it, it's only a matter of time. HOWEVER, it's all about the win baby, oh yea!
     
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    I was wondering if they were off their rocker too Scott LOL...I always powershifted and my clutch for 50000 miles on my Shelby Z. I shifted it so quick, that the boost gauge never seemed to drop in between gears..not powershifting, can easily make you lose races,..but of course, it's a trade off.
     
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    Even brake boosting done wrong is gonna cause damage.

    IMHO best bet would be a 30 mph roll. Seems to be a sweet spot with my s0 and stock wga, s1 and stock wga and s1 with my AGP.

    And yes I have a stage 1 and have wot shifted a couple times the car pulls hard as hell I'm not gonna lie but risking my tranny to show some guy on the street that I'm faster doesn't seem worth it to me.
     
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    Oh, I thought powershifting was not using the clutch and slamming gears...

    I personally have never done neither. I iz afraid. Granny shifting for life. hahaha
     
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    Man, I WOT shift every time I race, dozens of times by now. Oh wait, my tranny is broken now too... hmmm... wonder if there's a connection... hahaha.

    If you want to WOT shift, get some billet shift forks and shift selector, and the WOT box, that will pretty much make your tranny as capable of WOT shifting as it can be.
     
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    yes it does. but it's not the same as the wot box.
     
  18. Cheatek

    Cheatek SRT once, SRT always

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    Didn't know you could do that without using the clutch. I know that on most manual trans. if you let off the gas you can pull the shifter out of gear without using the clutch but not back in, at least it never worked that way in my Mustang. I'm like you tho, granny shifting for life! Actually now with an auto tranny I have someone shift for me ... :whistle:
     
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    srt4evah Raw Meat

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    Actually, you can shift without using the clutch, though I forget what they call that. It requires you to perfectly rev match I believe, I know it was something a friend of mine used to do with his RX-7.
     
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    you can do it, but shouldn't.