Stock Jeep in 11's?

sgtstanko · Jan 9, 2009

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Steve- Im not going to pick your thread apart as you did mine but I will address a few things you got wrong by quoting my previous post.

1) There was no backhanded congrats, it was true and sincere. Ive spoken to you on the phone and I have traded PMs, I think I know what your after and I do know determination you have to get there.

2) Steve- Im not going to debate you about a "stock" Jeep running 11s because I guess perhaps I missed the definition of stock(Thats where my sarcastic signature comes in) many people have different definitions as to what stock might be. Kinda like in Texas, the State constitution says you can carry a gun with you in a vehicle when you travel but travel isnt defined in the constitution <---- Another joke so you see Im not being a asshole, I just have a difference of opinion.

Now as to what I think and I believe and why I feel that way, lets no debate it but agree to disagree. First, its important to define what I feel is stock. Stock to me would mean nothing below the intake be removed and you run the parts that came on the dealer as it came off the lot. I dont think a massaged intake would be breaking the term stock. I think in time when tuning is more readily understood, a stock Jeep can run low 11s. Im not going to define what conditions, how many different people will do it, or if its done once in mineshaft air :miner:, whats done is done. In my book taking a penny or taking $100,000, both stealing.

My reason of thinking-

Follow me here, Im going to start to sound like our buddy GotStroke(Mods and admin please dont ban, is that a cussword ?) In 1997 vehicles I raced with were barely running 9s, these were in no way stock but Im getting to a point here. Then sometime around 1999 when Speedpro now FAST came out we all of a sudden starting running 8s with nothing more than the ability to tune for optimal performance. By the time 2001 rolled around those same vehicles were running 7s with almost the same combos but more understanding of software and ability to tune. Now we will take the simple Ford Mustang 4.6 DOHC, in 2000 with a fully gutted car and a Vortech STrim few would run low 11s without the use of N20. That same combo exact combo with todays tuning options and understanding can run a low 10, nothing different except that now we have Diablo and SCT instead of just a piggyback autologic or delta chip on the stock ECU. The same can be said for the LS1, with tuning your saw these guys advance MPH and chop away ETs. Now the Jeep is the first Mopar Ive owned and I think Im correct in saying that these 6.1s are in the infancy stage, 2 years ago I think besides Claude a low 13 was rocking. I would enjoy reading and listening to what you know and why you disagree with me, but Im not looking to get into a my pecker is bigger than yours contest.

Last thing in regards to cast vs forged, a balanced and blue printed engine will rev and be much snappier than a stock cast engine. The tighter specs will allow that over a reg assembly with just a balancer and flywheel keeping the crap together.

Still the fastest 2007 pinching a loaf :thanks:
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Forget it.......its all good dude.:bigwink:

Steve

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jtsrt · Jan 10, 2009 at 7:53 AM

What about claude running 12.16 @ 109 in Canada - stock! We are all familiar and it has been discussed several times on the cherokee forum, but apparently he did run it.
JT

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