Hi All, Some of you maybe aware, but in case for those who have not heard, Red Line now offers 0W40 oil. I'm not trying to make this yet another oil debate, but those that know and have used Red Line oils and products know their quality. I purchase all my Red Line products through More Than Tires, as they have very aggressive pricing and always do a great job on shipping. I included their contact information below. They do not have the 0W40 oil listed, but they are stocking and will have it in about 3 weeks. Pricing should be (please don't hold me to this as I have not confirmed yet), around $8.95 qt with a 10% discount on cases. (disclaimer: I have no connection with this company, just a long time satisfied customer). Again, just passing the word. Regards, Mark ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rick Merrick More Than Tires Merrick & Fair Inc. 901 Walnut Bottom Rd. Carlisle, PA 17015 717-243-0905 1-800-656-3247 Fax 717-249-1300 www.morethantires.com www.mfperformance.com
Not that it really makes a difference but: Is the RL 0W-40 synthetic or dino? At $2/qt. more than Mobil1, that's almost $20 extra per oil change for me.
Humm....I cannot comment on the RP. But RP is fully synthetic. Assuming you buy a case of Red Line, it comes to $8.05 qt. + shipping, no tax. And yes, oil is heavy, so with shipping I can see if it's just not worth it for some folks. I run Mobile One Extended Performance in my wife's truck and usually pay $7.95 qt + 6% tax. Sometimes I can get a 5 gal jug at WalMart which is usually cheaper, but it's hit or miss. And usually more miss. In my Chevelle, I run Red Line 10W40 for 8 years with outstanding results. I've run Mobile One 0W40 in the Jeep (7K miles), but will now switch over to Red Line. For me, with shipping, it comes to $9.96 qt. No question, that's expensive. I can tell you that there are four basic kinds of feed stock used in lubricating oils today. Petroleum based oils are most common and typically boil (flash) at around 400-420 degrees F. Oils made from chemicals called poly-olefins are basically synthetic petroleum and boil at slightly higher point due to their purity, say 440-450. Mobil1 and Castrol Syntec synthetics are this type. Another basic variety, diester oils, are made from organic fatty acids and alcohol, and boil at around 470 F. Amsoil and perhaps Havoline Formula 3 are representative of this type. Both the diesters and poly-olefins cost several times as much as the petroleum based oils, but are supposed to last around 4 times as long while offering superior lubrication. Diester-based oils are thought to have some degrading effect on rubber parts such as seals and oil filter components, but I have heard no first-hand reports of problems. A final type of oil base is pentlpolyol ester. This is a more complex version of the diester base and boils at over 520 F! To my knowledge only Red Line uses this expensive feed stock. In particular, their racing oil is pure polyol ester, which they claim has the extraordinary film strength of 500,000 psi. Interesting and again, just passing along the info. Regards, Mark
Mark- I didn't say anything about RP. Not sure where that came from. Also, if I have to have it shipped, that's on top of the extra $20. Say (at least) $20 to have 9 quarts shipped (truck takes 8.75 qts. per change). My $65 oil change just went over $100. I'm sure it's a great oil, and it's nice to see more 0W40's out there, but....
