I love it, poo poo my post and then start thinking analytically. So I'm having a Momo moment and getting upset over this. I love my car and I'd be really well, upset about having to total it out because of some seeming catastrophic defect like what this MIGHT be. I actually DO drive my car rather than just modify it to death and leave it in the garage for months. And then there's the whole, OMG, I drive my kid around in it / mommy paranoia thing. So all that aside, yes I'd be interested to know how common similar issues are and what LXes they are affecting, again so I can keep an eye out for issues and not have an experience like Chris's thus far.
That's my point, Tam. 4 vehicles is hardly cause for alarm or worry. Sure, keep it in the back of your head, but don't get emotional about it. You (we) don't know the driving habits of the other three vehicles, year made, or how many miles they have. We do know that Chris's driving habits are, well 100 fold worse than mine. lol His car is an 05 and probably has close to, if not over 100K miles???
Tam, Tam, LOTs of people have broken half shafts and you're not paniced about that right? (wait, before you say it, Hal broke his half shaft stock). ...and there are the failing motor mounts too. and did you replace your pink thingie yet?
No one said it didn't merit following. But at this point i wouldn't recommend bothering to look at your sub frame.
I would not stress over it at all. Nothing is perfect when made of course all standards and safety are tried in the best manner possible. But human and machine error happens. Then to add stress and age and everything breaks. I am watching this only because I have been known to drive my car very hard and could see that this could be an issue if the 3rd shift tech watching the welder did not do his PM's or the inspector was tired on 2nd shift and some cars from time to time were not checked out correct. At least I now know what to look for first if the issues start in my car. But I personally don't think that this is a defect that we should be concerned about. We would be seeing it on the over modified cars and police cars if it was!
Thank you! Now I feel better. And what I guess I meant to say about knowing what to look for, but it came out all "drama queen".
Wait a minute... aren't you wearing your O'Hura uniform (avatar)? What would O'Hura do in this scenario?
Probably call somebody... darn communications officer schtick. And its Uhura, unless you're making some kinda Irish jab. :sly:
OMG~!, OMG!, OMG!!!!!!!! Something broke on your car Chris??????.......would this be the very same car you drove to church on Sunday after making 56 runs down the 1/4 on Saturday. Or is it the car that stays parked in the garage during the week after beating the crap outta it on the infield at cali. THAT ONE????. Run for your life, the sky is falling!!. :thongue2::rofl:
ok all, here is the latest as of 3pm pst 1-12-10. I did not hear from the customer service department by 3pm pst as promised - so I'm a little miffed about that. In all fairness to Chrysler and the local dealer - (everyone needs to know this as it explains the dealer's stance). Chrysler DOES NOT warranty the frame. At least with the warranty that I bought from Chrysler - and one that is a Chrysler specific warranty sold by a Chrysler dealer. That was news to me about this whole thing. So break out your warranties and read the fine print. Bumper to bumper is not really everything in between as it seems. With that being said, someone from Detroit called the dealer and spoke with my service advisor and the tech that did the P&A for 1/2 hour this afternoon. I will be told if they (Chrysler) are going to cover this or not sometime tomorrow. Hopefully Chrysler does the right thing here on this one. Thanks for your support. Sincerely, cbutler32 and um thanks for the support over here - I think.
Thanks Ron for the support. And I really don't drive it like I used to be honest and my daughter was in the car both times when the issues arose so you diefintely know how I feel about my family. still working on the details. All are SRT's though. 74,464 miles. No drag racing for well over 2 1/2 years. Cannot afford car to fail like it just has. Geez, thanks Cam. And Firebird was 3-4 years ago wasn't it? The SRT's were made to be flogged. With no engine mods and no suspension mods - the car should not have come apart like it did. I would be the first to stand up and say that "yes, I went out and was racing this past weekend and broker therear end and I'm trying to get you guys to fix it". But that is not what happened. Hell, Iam trying to baby this thing man. I've got 74,464 miles on it and it is my only daily driver. I cannot afford to have the car damaged or be down for any amount of time at all. The fun days with the car and all the cool stuff is long over and has been. What really irks me is that the car was at the dealer for 2 days and they could not find why the car was squaeking and there was a metal clang under braking or acceleration either. With service tech and advisor in car - so they knew about problem. But couldn't "see" it. And no the sky is not falling, just a rear end blowing up and ruining my life. So I do not know why it is an issue to ask others on various forums if they know of people who have had similar issues. Wishing you all the best to you and your family Cam.
We're behind you 100%, make no mistake about that. We are also really interested in the root cause on this one as well as how it's going to be covered. First hope is that they decide "no problem, we'll take care of it". Second hope is that they do an analysis on it. WHY did it fail? Did the subframe just fail? or did something else fail/give and that caused the subframe to fail? Like a bad weld, bushes wore out and too much play caused undue stress, ???, what?
Chris buddy, come on man. I think you're over reacting here just a tad. What have you found out so far, maybe 4 cars have cracked sub frames. Lets see if memory serves me correctlly, there are over 1 million LX's out there. And with lets say 40K forum members between a couple places. Ya'd think that if this were a common problem, we'd here about it a little more. So lets do some math. 40K/1M = 4% or the total amount of LX's ever sold happen to belong to some type of LX/LY forum. Now out of that 40K, 4 have busted. That equals .01%. Those are pretty slim odds there buddy that there is a major issue. Now lets look at the facts. Many of us have known each other for what, 4-5 years now??. Now you know that we know that you do what you do on everytime we're together. And we all have busted different parts on a regualr basis. BTW, the fiber coupler is a weak link, common fact on that one. Also, aren't you running KW's. Anyhow my point is, it would be great if Mopar stepped up and fixed it. But in all honesty, can you really be pissed if they don't. BTW, I do love you and if needed, you're more then welcome to bring it up to the shop and I'll weld it back together and make it all pretty again.
Thanks Quick. I know you guys are. This is just the last thing I need right now to be happening to me. I agree with you on the 1st and hope they do the 2nd to see what the heck happened. the dealer should have never given me back the car from my standpoint as there was something wrong, ut they couldn't find it. And then when I drove it that night and something went boom - and they told me to bring it in when the parts came in. Hey, I jus tdid what I was told. Nothing leaking, nothing visibly broken that I could looking under it, what is a car owner to do? Cam, very sensitive about this one bro. sorry, but I really don't drive it like I used to anymore. Just cannot afford too. I'm just looking to see if anyone has had similar failures; as some on these boards have expressed that they hve. Also I haven't been on in over a year on some of the boards so I am not up to speed on what is breaking or not. I just don't have the time. Actually this is the first major failure for me man. I am not running KW's or any suspension mods or engine mods. And yes, I will be pissed that they don't because I have kept the car mechnically unmodified for this very reason. If it ws modded out - then I would agreee with you wholeheartedly and not even try to get my car fixed like it should be. There is a history though of me bringing in the car and doing everything a car owner is supposed to do to get it fixed. The dealer I feel did not find the problem which then was exacerbated and thus my current situation. And yes, I know you love me man. Nothing but love back at ya. And really awesome of you to offer. But it was NOT me, nor my fault - unlike my old sidekick DR.
Thanks Cam. I appreciate the offer. The thing is I brought the car in for the initial problem last month, they ordered parts to repair problem on the rear subframe bushings, then they gave me back the car with known problem, I had issue while driving, called service advisory about issue and was told to drive car until parts came in to fix orginal problem. With rear subframe bushings being the problem, the driveline was out of balance and loaded up the frame and broke it. Not my fault. They should have kept car in shop. I'm pissed and damn lucky that nothing catastrophic happened to me and my daughter while driving it down the street. I don't see how Chrysler can see it any other way. I understand the frame issue, but the frame damage is a result of the powertrain failure due to the parts that were on order. We'll keep you in the loop man. Once again, thanks brother. cbutler32
