Mopar CAI

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  1. TXSkyeSRT8

    TXSkyeSRT8 New Member

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    I just unwrapped a Mopar CAI for Christmas. I havent tried to install it or anything yet. Does anyone have any comments on the install process or and negative feed back on the product?
     
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    Quick Mgmt. - I can't help you

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    Be careful with the air intake temp sensor (plugs into the elbow). Unclip wire connector first then gently work it out. Same putting it back in the Mopar. I had to use a few washers to space the hanger bolt so the filter didn't rub up against the power steering reservoir.
     
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    NYCSRTATE Maximus Want 2 Go Fastius

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    And I would relocate the IAT, but you an always do that at a later time.
     
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    Face the red clip on the sensor facing the incoming air flow. And yes the sensor is hard to remove, and is somewhat delicate. People also often break the red locking clip, take care with that also. Patience is needed when working with the sensor.
     
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    Thanks guys

    -inferno- What will relocating do?
     
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    Why Does Texas Get Christmas Earlier? Haha! I Broke My Sensor When Removing And Than Paid $27.for New One So Be Careful And Take Your Time Removing.
     
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    I'm in Oklahoma celebrating christmas with my brother. I also got a Valentine 1 from my fiance!
     
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    TX, I just responded to this same post on the CherokeeSRT8 site and won't repeat here. However the comment from Inferno about moving the IET is interesting as I have some concerns about the close proximity of the of the sensor to the PCV breather connection which I think is now too close to the throttle body. There has always been a possibility that if someone fills the oil too fast without a funnel that some of the oil could run down the breather hose. This can happen with the stock setup but the oil only runs into the bottom of the filter box in that situation. With this new location the oil could be a real concern if it gets to the throttle body. Any thoughts on that anyone?
     
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    Why? not much different than what comes through the PCV (and condenses in the manifold). Or do you think the oil would ruin the AIT sensor. It's up on the side so shouldn't be hit with liquid oil.

    Moving the sensor is to fool the PCM. PCM pulls timing as the intake air temp goes up (above 90*? 100*? or so). If you move the sensor towards the filter element then it is reading the temp before it gets heated by the intake tube (heated by engine bay heat). The thinking is that the PCM pulls timing in response to higher intake temps for emissions only. I haven't heard anything definitive on that. I was thinking that the hotter air is less dense so there may be reason other than (or along with) emissions.

    Oh, and nothing wrong with cut'n'pasting your posts over here too -- some people can't read them over there...
     
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    It will give you IAT temps that are actual not heat soaked temps which you get now from the stock and Mopar CAI IAT location.

    Plus the heatshield for the Mopar kit is a joke, I had to extend my CAI tube farther into the engine bay.

    Here are a couple of links to the OC to help you out.

    http://www.srt8oc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8783&highlight=relocation

    http://www.srt8oc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13686&highlight=mopar+extension


    The stock location of the breather tube is worse on the stock set up and the Mopar.

    My IAT is now farther away from the breather tube then the stock location.

    If you have any oil actually coming back from the breather tube ide say you hav a HUGE problem.
     
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    how hard is it to relocate? Isn't there a hole in the CAI for the sensor? How do you move it?
     
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    NYCSRTATE Maximus Want 2 Go Fastius

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    You have to drill a new one and seal the existing one, did you see my relocate thread I posted on my previous post, it has all the info.
     
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    I know what you mean but it makes me cringe when you word it that way. Sounds like it was a mistake that needs to be corrected. "IAT temps that are actual not heat soaked temps". Yes, actual outside temps but not the temp that is entering the manifold. "Intake air temp" should refer to the temp entering the manifold -- heat soaked or not. If fooling the PCM is good or not and if the PCM only pulls timing for emissions is completely separate. But when you say "actual temp" it sort of implies "correct temp" or "what it should be reading"... you see what I mean? The heat soak is a problem.

    You have a point there. I'm thinking of swapping my Mopar for the AFE stage II when my filter needs replacing. Rubber tube and the heat shield looks better.
     
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    The temps are HEATSOAKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:beerchug:

    I have been using this setup now for 7 months with no ill effects to my engine.
     
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    I too have relocated my IAT sensor and actually picked up a few MPG.
     
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    I wonder if you could see any difference with a wideband? Check it normal and then check it after idling for a few minutes.
     
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    I love mine.... But what don't I love about my car...lol
     
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    Thanks for the response. Sorry, I didn't state my concern about the PVC tube location very well. With the stock setup, the PVC breather tube extends over to the air filter box and dumps in below the air intake but above the filter. I have been told of two situations where during an oil change the oil was poured in too fast and backed up through the PVC valve and ran down into the filter box soaking the filter, etc. This is a mess that requires replacement of the filter but probably wouldn't make its way to the throttle body. With the MOPAR CAI design, the line is now shortened to enter at the bottom of the intake tube but is much closer to the throttle body inlet. It just seems to me that the oil fumes and any accidental oil overfill might stand a much better chance of collecting on the throttle body and gum things up to say the least. I also had a concern about the oil fumes having an effect on the IAT, assuming that is why they wern't installed similarly on the original intake tube design. I'm wondering now if it wouldn't be better to leave the IAT where it is designed to go with the Mopar CAI and install the breather tube as close to the filter as possible so that an oil drainage would run into the filter and not the throttle body. Am I paranoid or is this a real potential problem area?
     
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    Or you can get rid of the breather tube all together and put a filter on 90 degree fitting and toss the tube. Just dont forget to plug the hole the breather fitting was in under the CAI tube.
     
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    Trade it in for an AFE II... J/K... they are all pretty good. Like they said, be careful with the sensor, a little drop of soap lets it slide in a lot easier.