Huge "Rumor"

[MotherMopar]

I've been outta the loop for a week or so, but Drew just told me that the Viper (600hp one) will be using the same 6.1 our cars have in the coming years... and still making that power. Anyone care to clarify/provide more details?

 

[GotStroke?]

No, the '08 uses a 600HP 8.4L V10. In the past week two stockers have dyno'd ~550/515rw SAE bone stock. With full exhaust, and a few more miles one of them dyno'd ~600/550rw SAE. I bet they find another 20-25rw in the tune giving them ~625-630rw SAE with just bolt ons plus the stock longblock. I see this being the first 700rw (with heads/cam on the stock bottom end) N/A production motor ever.
The new V10s much improved heads are allegedly based on the 6.1s (revised I'm sure), and they supposedly use the same pistons/rods as the 6.1s.

 

[1bad4dr]

I do not think it is using the 6.1 engine per se, rather the technology that the 6.1 uses...

But then again, I could be wrong.

 

[GotStroke?]

FWIW, you will never see 600 emissions legal SAE horsepower from a 2v/pushrod 6.1 on pump gas.

 

[1fastsedan]

Its working both ways too. At SEMA, one of the MOPAR Performance engine engineers told me that the new 6.1 aluminum block will have cylinder sleeves that were sourced from the Viper motor.

 

[GotStroke?]

Its working both ways too. At SEMA, one of the MOPAR Performance engine engineers told me that the new 6.1 aluminum block will have cylinder sleeves that were sourced from the Viper motor.

Any word on pricing and availability of the Al block?

Thanks

 

[1fastsedan]

Any word on pricing and availability of the Al block?

Thanks

He didn't have anything on pricing. He said that they were tentatively shooting for a mid-08 release. The biggest news about the new block is that there was enough meat in the sleeves to safely bore/stroke out to 440ci.

 

[MotherMopar]

So what you're telling me is that Drew's a putz?!?!

 

[GotStroke?]

He didn't have anything on pricing. He said that they were tentatively shooting for a mid-08 release. The biggest news about the new block is that there was enough meat in the sleeves to safely bore/stroke out to 440ci.

Gotta love the factory T356 race blocks Ford, Chevy and now DCX are kicking out. Now we just need top ends that can support that many inches.

 

[GotStroke?]

So what you're telling me is that Drew's a putz?!?!

Not sure who Drew is but his info on the Viper is incorrect.

 

[Mr. Moe]

Not sure who Drew is but his info on the Viper is incorrect.

Which makes him a putz....thanks for saying it Andy! Hehe

Like he said, if you don't know Drew then he definitely must be a putz. I know him and I think he is the coolest putz around...:rock:

 

[LegMaker]

I do not think it is using the 6.1 engine per se, rather the technology that the 6.1 uses...

But then again, I could be wrong.

ahhhh what do you know......hahahahahaha

 

[StevoSRT]

I do not think it is using the 6.1 engine per se, rather the technology that the 6.1 uses...

But then again, I could be wrong.

that seems like it could be the case...it makes the most sense...

 

[mjc1241]

The cam swap on a new Viper will be interesting to say the least. It is a "CaminCam" design that is a bit weird.(First type I have heard of and the first supposedly in OHV engine history) I am not as well versed on how it works but it is not your standard cam setup. Check it out: (see paragraph talking about the CaminCam-in-Block)

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0709_2008_dodge_viper_srt_10/

 

[diegochrysler]

I've been outta the loop for a week or so, but Drew just told me that the Viper (600hp one) will be using the same 6.1 our cars have in the coming years... and still making that power. Anyone care to clarify/provide more details?

Who is the Dainty Dumb Derd Double Down Dofus Drew you speak of!

 

[MotherMopar]

Not sure who Drew is but his info on the Viper is incorrect.

Drew = Stretch (the Pimp of the EQ)

Which makes him a putz....thanks for saying it Andy! Hehe

I was thinking the same thing, oddly enough.

Like he said, if you don't know Drew then he definitely must be a putz. I know him and I think he is the coolest putz around...:rock:

Well said Moe. Well said.

ahhhh what do you know......hahahahahaha

Me? Nothing... Ron: how to give great 'tongue massages'

 

[Raland]

He didn't have anything on pricing. He said that they were tentatively shooting for a mid-08 release. The biggest news about the new block is that there was enough meat in the sleeves to safely bore/stroke out to 440ci.

An all aluminum 440.... there's something to sell a kidney for...