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  1. May 30, 2010 #41
    orandaberg

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    Hi Here was the response, he still did not explain the sudden power in acceleration an torque, something happened

    Hi Pierre, first of all I must tell you: don’t listen too much to people on forums.

    Also this key on-off procedure is not existing. Somebody had this idea and everybody believes it. It ONLY works with Chrysler tools (Starscan, Starmobile, WiTech) – NO other way!

    Besides from that you have a diesel,

    ETC relearning does not exist on the diesels!



    Get your error codes read and see what the problem is.



    What you described sounds like a bad swirl actuator, all diesels have that between 30 000 and 60 000 kilometers, it often happens when the car was not used for a few days.

    It will start a few more times but at some point the problem will not go away anymore.

    Oily gases condensate and drop on that motor and damage it.

    Most of all 300c diesels have this at some time
     
  2. May 30, 2010 #42
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    Well, he's right about the key on key off thing.

    We all agree about getting the error codes and see what they say.
    (what did they says anyway?)

    Symptoms/and when it fails could match your situation.

    If he knows anything about diesels then he's going to know more than most everyone here :)

    Sudden improvement could just mean the problem is intermittent? What exactly *does* a swirl actuator do? and what does it cost to replace?

    I'd definitely go with looking at the codes first.

    So 2 real good possibilities here. If it's really simple to eliminate one over the other, do that first and the other second. If they're about the same I'd go with the audiovox first. Might be that you have more than one problem too. I would not expect the Audiovox to be involved with something like performance when running. It would be more involved with startup/warmup time things.
     
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  3. May 30, 2010 #43
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    http://reviews.ebay.ie/Chrysler-300...-Fitting-Guide-300_W0QQugidZ10000000013664997

    http://www.crdsite.com/articles/wkintake/tsoilfix.html

    http://www.crdsite.com/articles/wk_crd_egr_cleaning.htm

    http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f67/crd-intake-tube-seal-pictures-1006737/

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MERCEDES-642-...CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef78cfed#ht_1052wt_941

    This is what one looks like
    I am taking it to the shop tomorrow an let them take a look at the intake seal of the turbo if it is orange it needs to be repalced with the grey I will also let them drain the intercoller an see if there is oil, I will also put in a oil catch can to prevent oil going back into the intake ot the turbo, as of now no problems I ran the car again hard use the remote start for every start, runs super, I also asked my garage to take the car to Stealership an do a error code but no repaires unless its a calibration,

    And if he is right about the deleting the ETC why does it work?
     
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  4. May 30, 2010 #44
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    Some error codes are "staged". For example, it may take some number of cycles with an error occurence for the code to assert or "trip". On the SRTs failure to reach operating temperature withing a certain amount of time after key start would be one of those. If the car doesn't reach operating temperature (167* to 177*F) within so many minutes it sets a count. If this happens 3 or some number of start cycles in a row then it throws the code. On the other hand, some codes or conditions take some number of cycles to clear. They can be thrown immediately on detection of a single error but then take some number of cycles without the error to clear. Maybe your ETC(s) are those kind? and cycling the key a few times clears them? Then when you drive it for some amount of time it occurs again? Or maybe the problem is just intermittent right now.
     
  5. May 31, 2010 #45
    orandaberg

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    Well the light came on again today, we will see what the dealer says about the codes.
    Kraftwerk wrote:
    Go to the dealer, the swirl actuator and the gasket get replaced under extendet emissions warranty.

    5 years and 80 000 km for everything related to emissions (and this is emissions)

    Costs nothing!

    I asked the stealer an of course the " we have to check with the main office an since your car is not stock, meaning all the non OEM items they may say no, anyway the stealer wants 1000 dollars for the parts and 1500 dollars labor, I can get them for 200 online in Germany OEM parts an my garage can do the work for less probably half the cost. I will post the progression
     
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    Ummm, doesn't "replaced under extended emissions warranty" mean FREE?
    (assuming it's covered due to the mods).

    By the way, I don't really see any mods that would effect emissions except the Kraftwerk's tune and maybe the exhaust (but I don't think so on the exhaust). Maybe you could do something like talk to Kraftwerk's and see if there is some way you could get a stock PCM to swap in there for the dealer visit? Like maybe give them a deposit or something that would be returned when you send back the PCM? On our cars it's just a small plug in box.

    I'd also think about starting some correspondence to your regional Chrysler service representative. You could start out with something like "I think I may have this problem that's covered under a Chrysler TSB and is an emissions issue and the dealer said they want $1500 for parts..."
     
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  7. Jun 1, 2010 #47
    orandaberg

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    OK
    I am offshore working ,left the car with my garage to look into things sarting with the codes. I,ll keep posting as things progress, thanks for the tip
     
  8. Jun 4, 2010 #48
    orandaberg

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    From the dealer

    Hei

    There are no faults in the engine control unit regarding emmission.

    The only faults in the car is related to all ekstra equipment mounted in the car. (CAN BUS disturbance)

    Could this still be from my remote start as I had to reboot it to make my keyfob work
     
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    That would be my guess.
     
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