Absolutely. PPP had a 1.539 60' time on the way to his record [email protected] mph. So if the fastest LX is already quicker in the first 60', and has less wind resistance at the top end, and still isn't in the 10's, then I think the Jeeps will just need more power than the PPP 426, because I doubt there's much left in the 60' category. I'm sure it will get done. This year it may take a 426 Jeep with spray. But people keep advancing the bar. Never say never.
Also, PPP was with negative DA at Atco I think. Jeremy is attempting to be the 1st LX in the 10's NA. That's quite a feat. No one's done it FI or N2O yet. I know he was plumbed for Direct Port N2O along time ago, but I don't know if it's operational yet. He may want to juice it pretty soon, cause others are catching up. I would. LOL I will. LOL
Matt, most of us are just running either the stock radials that came with the Jeep or other radials like Toyo, putting drag radials on the Jeep causes some kind of issues as being too sticky is not good in AWD. I ran my 12.88 on stock tires
Ron and I are running the Nitto 305/45-18's which are like 28.8" tall. We run high 1.6's all the time. Shorter DR would net a little better 60, but create shift issues up top, and also cuts MPH. Shorter is better for NA, taller for adders.
I know he still doesn't have his nitrous operational. When I beat his record time, he'll be back to the drawing board in a hurry though. LOL.
Cobra Thanks for clearing the info up. Please dont take my post wrong. You still ran it. Just like I did the 11.9 but I havent been back to the track either. BTW...what are the "powerflo solenoids"? I have seen the discussion on the ZEX not being able to flow past a certain point and since then have bought their "bigger solenoids". My 426 is on the way this week and it looks good for the Spring Fling for a few nitrous runs. The I-Charger for me is still about 3-4 weeks away. I will most likely run the I-Charger with dual injection ports and run nitrous in the second port directly into the motor. I'd just like to see 11.4.......getting into the 10's would be icing on the cake.:thumb3:
They're "powershot" solenoids, and that's the name of some specific solenoids from NOS. They have a maximum flow rate of a 200HP shot. Basically, the orifice in the solenoid is no bigger than the jet that would be used for a 200HP shot. So no - no matter what jet he used, it's not possible he had a 250 shot. Also - for what it's worth, the typical -4 AN line that comes from the bottle to the solenoids with most basic kits, will only flow around 200HP itself. So unless he upgraded that line, he's not getting any more than a 200HP shot. I just upgraded to a -6 AN line myself in order to get past that bottleneck.
....you are partly right at least? I was told by NOS, and Nitrous outlet that those solenoids flow a max of 175??????????? They are pretty small. SGT I wasn't replying in an offended matter, some people just aren't sure what I was spraying and the rumors in NOV helped fuel the fire. I just wanted to tell everybody...right from my keyboard the "deal". I admit my Jeep does seem like a ringer, but I have 20+ years of drag racing experience, and alot of what I race........has little tricks and tips involved. Another car I race is a friend's 88 GT. He bought it running 9.90s. I was able to tweak and tune it to 9.6s. We now have refined it even slightly more, and I am hoping for [email protected] some wheelie action and high 1.3 60fts. peace....out! LOL
GETTING INTO THE 10's WITH HEADS + CAM + 200 SHOT PLUS ALL OTHER BOLT ONS SUCH AS HEADERS, EXHAUST, INTAKE ETC. WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE
Proof? I'm not trying to be a dick but optimistic. I'd really like ot be the one who tries this. I just need the money for about 95% of the parts. Maybe a vendor would hook me up with some nice prices.:drunk: Thanks Cobrakid and others for explaining things and making me think even more.:dance4:
Question: In your opinion, can a 300C on a stock longblock hit the 10's with nothing but bolt-ons (including nitrous)? It hasn't been done yet, and maybe it never will. Just curious where you'd place your bet?
I have an aggressive cam, stage 2 heads, exhaust, intake, ported stock headers, and have been around N20 enough to know that it is not possible. Basically what I am saying is that if I were to put any amount of nitrous to my truck there would be no way to get it into the 10's and there arent many cams or heads out there that are much better than my setup....I wouldnt want to shoot a 200 shot at the thing anyways...
Honestly I havent been around the LX's enough to know what they are capable of. But my guess would be no, as Jeremy is barely going to hit 10's with his full out 426 and a shot...
WHat heads and cam do you have? From who? Ok if you think a 200shot is too big how about a 2 stage 100shot? Also what times are you running N/A and on what tires?
A reasonable opinion. Although some people believe he may have hit 10's without spray, as the track timing mysteriously didn't work and they wouldn't give him his final timeslip after warning him previously for going to fast without proper equipment. But you're correct - currently the closest to the 10's looks like a 426 built to the hilt, in a weight lowered car, with a 1.5 second 60', and it'll still need spray to likely cut the final 1/4 second off.
You can check out all my mods above....PPP Stage 2 heads with a custom cam PPP cam. Also I do not know enough about N20 to comment on which is safer...
Yeah he was pretty pissed about that day at the track. And I think he will get close to tens, but I am not sure he will get there without the spray. Only time will tell and if there is one person I support to do it. Jeremy is the man!!
Sorry man that print is too small for me to read. Also what times have you run and on what tires? Thanks
