Eibach Pro Street S Coil Overs vs. KWV1's!!!!!

Thank you! What I needed to hear was the part about you passing BMWs at the track. Ryan... let's take this a step further and get a definitive price.

 

Kris,

I would give you a warm well deserved reach around if you lived in SO CAL bro! I was waiting for someone with the EIBACH system to answer this question. Nothing against all those who offered their advice...All the responses really helped with my decision making except for MOMO's and BUD's:bottom:

 

I remember those pics (or at least the driveway). Forget the painted tips and get that BT front badge and a few tanks of gas. Mine should be in the mail pretty soon :clap:

 

I already have the black BT front grill SRT8 badge. A tank of gas usually last me a week to a week and a half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I haven't driven my baby since last week.:dumb:

 

actually matt, the fronts on the kw's can be adjusted without complete removal, it is the rears that are impossible to get to. i can adjust my fronts just by turning the wheels to full lock and jacking up the car to unload weight.

 

ryan - just my two cents, but what kris (srt8u) said is right on imo. i do not suspect you will be doing much of anything with your car outside of driving it and getting "sprited" occassionally. if i was in your shoes, i would go with the eibach set up (cuz i know that much of the components are kw). i highly doubt anyone could quantify a real difference between the kw 1's and the eibachs. just my two cents though....

 

You are exactly correct. I was overbroad in my statement, and was only thinking about the rears.

(no jokes please)

 

I wish people (not just you) would quit making this leap of logic. Just because some company makes a product (or components) for someone else does not imply that it is in any way equivalent to their own brand. Sometimes this is the case but sometimes it's not. Sometimes a company makes products where it's just a matter of whose company badge is stuck on it at the end. Other times a company will contract someone else to make product or components to their different specs, quality control, materials, etc.

 

Again, can you quote somewhere that states the KWV1's are above/better/superior than the Eibach setup? My understanding the whole KW unit as well as the Eibach are not made by their respective company. Parts of each unit are made by others! I highly doubt KW makes the shocks/springs and every faucet of their unit, same for Eibach!

We can each find an article, critic or whatever write up backing "OUR OWN OPINION!"

Is Chevy better than GMC or GMC better than a Caddy?
Is Lincoln better than Ford?
Is Honda better than Acura?
Is Infiniti better than Nissan?
Is Lexus better than Toyota?

:shutup:

Quick,

I bet your a hoot at SCRABLE............ :thongue2:

 

quick - but in this case, does anyone know for certain that there are any differences??? i was referring to the "components" of the systems..... i do agree that the springs themselves may have slight variances due to company design parameters or means to differenciate themselves. overall, i have not seen anything that tells me there exist any real differences in the overall component, outside of maybve spring rates, etc. your points are absolutly valid, just in this case, i have never really seen anything that tells me there exists major differences, especially considering the op probable needs......:grin:

 

I never said or meant to imply that one was better or worse than the other. On the other hand everyone assumes KWs are the ultimate for our cars. They may well be. They certainly seem to measure up to everyone's expectations. But to imply that Eibachs will be at least as good, almost as good, great, simply because they are made wholly or in part by KW doesn't follow. Yes, I would agree that KW would probably never produce (even product that is for someone else) substandard stuff. It may be the case that Eibachs are even superior to the KWs. KW could be making or assembling stuff for Eibach that exceeds their own standards. I drove a semi for 9 years. I've been in a lot of factories. Not unusual to see stuff like if it meets this tolerance/measure it gets this brand, if it falls below that and above this it gets that brand. And it's usually a percentage thing. The "up" brand guarantees it will be in these specs. The "down" brand could be the same as the "up" brand or even better or it could be below but within the "down" brand specs. Then there are completly separate products made by one company for another. As you say the components for any brand may come from many sources. But just because KW makes something for someone else does not necessarily mean it has KW properties. Like I said, it could even be better.

(I win at scrabble because I bring my own dictionary)

 

i hear ya quick and i agree........ just that until any of us has quantifiable proof, knowledge, etc, that one is high or low, i say go with what you want. i know folks with both and i have heard good and bad about both..... comes down to choice for the consumer. i never win at scrabble...... i usually end up getting in a fight with the person that brings their own dictionary!!! hahahahahahhahaaha

 

I'm subscribing to this one! And, I'm gonna go do some research on the Eibach option.

 

Thanks MIKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nerd::thumb:

 

Here is another car w/ the Eibachs
http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62118

Guys give me a shout before you order and I can see what Lisa can do for price...she should be gettign setup as a vendor here soon i hope.

 

yer welcome, Ryan! There isn't a lot of info out there on the Eibach site re: the Pro System Plus and the Pro Street S. The Pro System Plus is struts, sways and coils. The Pro Steet S is the tuned coil overs. But there are no specs immediately available. I'm gonna keep digging. Didn't really have a chance as tonight was bowling nite.

I'm interested in an installation instruction for the Pro Street S that speaks to how the adjustments work, range of adjustment and corresponding drop, spring rates, rebound rates and misc. items like torque specs, etc...

Gonna keep digging. It appears to me that the Pro System Plus and the Pro Street S are very different kits.

I have the specs on the KW's, both versions, I'd like to compare the Eibach system to.

 

The pro system plus does not work for SRT8's as we cannot use lowering springs..only the Pro Street Coilovers will work. I have these installed and can answer any questions about install you may have. Adjustments are exactly the same as the KW coilovers.

 

Remember a lot of the price is in construction materials and not performance.
The KW uses all stainless bodies which is where a lot of the increased cost is.
But then I see the Pro Street does also....hmmm.... but the KW1's are cheaper.
A lot of shocks have some sort of "special" corrosion coating over mild steel.

But agai...n how often have you changed your shocks because they corroded....

The ST Suspensions coilovers also look nice to me and best price because they are only zinc plated. Exact KW1 but not solid stainless.
http://estore.websitepros.com/802805/Detail.bok?no=1010

Tein Super Streets also fall into same price range between KW1 and KW2. However better and easier to adjust damping range over the KW2 and the option to remote adjust damping. This remote adjust damping makes it nice, because often you are going to accept a "close" setting because it is a pain to adjust rears. Plus it will be real easy to go between street, strip, and road race settings. They are powder coated over zinc plated steel.
http://www.tein.com/products/super_street.html

 

Nat thanks for the input bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I think you could get ProMotion to do the Coilovers for $1199.....and add EDFC option for $349.

Grand Finale....
HERE IS STORY AND PICS from MightyNoid's install of Tein system on LXforums.....I knew someone was running Teins.
http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=57639&highlight=Teins