Cam/Blower Question

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by MotherMopar, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. MotherMopar

    MotherMopar The One, The Only... MOMO

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    Moe's Cam thread sparked this one.

    I'm in no position to actually follow-through on this ($ reasons) but found it to be a good topic of discussion... and a great 'forum' for some vendors to chime in too!

    With a stock 6.1 motor and a blower (Vortech in my case), what cam would be a solid performance upgrade and a mechanically safe pairing (considering stock bottom end)?
     
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    1fastsedan Destroyer of Warranties

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    My new one. :bye:

    In all seriousness, again it depends on what you want. I don't have axles and I don't run drag radials, so I went with more of a top-end cam. I know Cam went with a cam that's technically smaller than mine, but creates more torque down low because he has all the needed hardware to run it. The issue with a blower cam is that you want less overlap (higher LSA) because the intake charge is being pushed into the cylinder instead of being drawn by the intake stroke and exiting exhaust (scavenge).
     
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  3. Cheatek

    Cheatek SRT once, SRT always

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    Exactly! Jason, other cams will work as well as the stock one it's just some are better for forced induction than others for making max power.
     
  4. MotherMopar

    MotherMopar The One, The Only... MOMO

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    Thanks gents!

    OK, where can I find a good writeup on what makes a cam 'tick', as in info on LSA (overlap), etc. I have no idea what those terms refer to.

    Lastly, what cam would you all recommend, considering my rear end is stock (with no DR's)? My ideal power band is mid-high, as the blower will already give me 'too much' power down low and I won't get traction off the line anyway.
     
  5. HalV48

    HalV48 They Call Me Patron

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    If your running a stock motor, I'd stick with a stock cam. The stock pistons and rods are aren't going to allow you to run much boost anyway. Your car will run it's best with high CR and low boost with a stock motor. Running a cam might increase your cylinder pressure to much. If you don't forge the bottom end, save the cam and install money toward upgrading later.
     
  6. 1bad4dr

    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    Ol wise one speaks again...
     
  7. 1fastsedan

    1fastsedan Destroyer of Warranties

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    Jason,

    These should get you started on understanding the cam shaft, not Cam's shaft so don't get that excited.

    Lift (generally 5**/5**) - how far down the valve is at fully open
    Duration (i.e. 214/218) - the degrees of rotation that during which the valve is opening, open, then closing. Basically, how long its off the valve seat.
    Lobe separation angle (114) - the distance between the intake lobe and exhaust lobe, determines how long both valves are open at the same time, called overlap. Cams with more overlap scavenge better and perform better at higher RPMS.

    A lower lobe separation angle tends to make the idle more lopey. In general, more aggressive cams have higher lift and/or duration which means more air enters the cylinder. Then the issue of cam timing comes into play, which is a bit more advanced.

    Here's some light reading:
    http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=41464
    http://www.compcams.com/Community/Ar...p?ID=783188293
    http://www.compcams.com/Community/Ar...ID=-2026144213
    http://www.compcams.com/Community/Ar...ID=-1573211141
     
  8. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    well said hal!!!! i have heard many say that when running a stock internaled 6.1, best just to leave in the stock cam when going f/i.
     
  9. MotherMopar

    MotherMopar The One, The Only... MOMO

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    Thanks again peeps.