Chris, Don't forget to give me a hollar when it's on. I'm there if I'm not out of town! That may be a 9.35 before too long........I think a few guys out there this year will be stepping up. It'll be on like Donkey Kong!
To get to that point, there will need to be loads of work done to the motor AND weight reduction. haha Just think, these motors in a light weight car will do 9's all day long.
You guys make me depressed! I am trying to just hit 12's and you are all talking low 11's and 10's ! Hopefully one day i can enjoy the felling of 10-11 sec car but till then i sure enjoy seeing you guys kick ass! Awesome rides all of you's!!!:worthy:
I read all these numbers and am curious what class and what sanctioning body rules are being used to put everyone on a level playing field. For example are all cars required to use a full roll cage certified by an organization. What limits on modifications are allowed. Are full slicks allowed or only drag radials? Where can I get a copy of the rulebook for the class you are all running in?
it doesnt seem like they are running by any rules. its just kinda a sideshow event....they see what the turnout is, then get a set of rules put together for the next one.
Not sure what rules you are speaking of, but if you run at any NHRA track, NHRA rules apply. So, if your car run's faster than an 11.49 and you do not have an NHRA certified roll bar/cage installed, you will be asked to leave.
What I meant was the NHRA has certain classes of cars and the rules and requirements vary from class to class. The requirements to run in super gas are different than to run super comp or to run funny car. Each also requires a different license. In the NMCA they also run various classes, some allow slicks, others do not, some are unlimited mods and some are limited to for example having mufflers. I just wanted to know what class and sanctioning body recognises these records? I guess what I'm saying is what are the rules of this competition to be fastest?
Rubbel, This may help, I belive were the same rules as the EFI class. http://www.nmcadigital.com/rules.html DOCUMENT OPTIONS: Print Page EATON POSI LATE-MODEL EFI NMCA SERIES 2008 RULES CLASS DESIGNATIONS & INDEX A-9.50 B-10.00 C-10.50 D-11.00 E-11.50 F-12.00 G-12.50 H-13.00 I-13.50 J-14.00 K-14.50 L-15.00 Class Description Late Model EFI is designed for Late Model production domestic “hot rod†vehicles which are OEM-equipped with electronic fuel injections. Late Model EFI approved body styles are permitted. Vehicles must run engine type originally installed in vehicle. Late Model EFI is based on an index which you must choose during the tech-in process or prior to the first scheduled qualifying run. Once a qualifying run has been made, changing your index is prohibited. The closer you qualify to your index, the higher you will qualify. All runs made faster than your index will be disqualified. Late Model EFI racing will be conducted at all drag racing events (see race schedule). Qualifying Information, Ladder Type, & Tree All Run, NHRA Sportsman Ladder, .500 Pro Tree, Handicap Start. ELIGIBLE YEAR MODELS AND BODY STYLES The following is a list of cars/engines, which are allowed to compete in the Late Model EFI class: Chevrolet Corvette, LS1, LS2, LS6, LS7, 1997-current Chevrolet Camaro, LS1, 1998-current Chevrolet SSR, LS2, 2005-2006 Chevrolet Trail Blazer, LS2, 2006-current Ford Mustang, 4.6L Modular equipped, 1996-current Ford Shelby Mustang, 5.4, 2007-current Ford Lighting, 5.4, 1999-2004 Ford Marauder, 4.6. 2003-2004 Chrysler 300, Hemi V8, 2005-current Dodge Viper, V10, 1992-current Dodge Challenger, Hemi V8, 2007-current Dodge Magnum, Hemi V8, 2005-current Dodge Charger, Hemi V8, 2006-current DodgeSRT-10, V10, 2004-2006 Jeep SRT8 Grand Cherokee, Hemi V8 2006-current Pontiac GTO, LS1/2, 2004-current Pontiac Trans Am LS1, 1998-2002 LATE MODEL EFI Classes All LATE MODEL EFI class participants must declare & have posted the LATE MODEL EFI class of choice prior to the 1st scheduled qualifying run in their respective eliminator or at the time of technical inspection. No change of class is permitted after the first scheduled qualifying round for the respective eliminator. Class Guidelines 1: ENGINE 1.1 COOLING SYSTEM RADIATOR: OEM production-style or aftermarket radiator is required and must be mounted in stock location. Stock core support is required. Water pump: Any aftermarket (belt drive or electric drive) pump permitted. COOLING FANS: Any permitted. 1.2 ENGINE ENGINE: See ELIGIBLE YEAR MODELS AND BODY STYLES. Any internal engine modifications permitted. 1.3 EXHAUST EXHAUST: All entries allowed to use tubular headers. Adapter plates permitted to bolt headers to cylinder head. Exhaust must be directed out of car body, away from driver and fuel tank. 1.3a) HEADERS & COLLECTORS: Any headers and/or collectors permitted. 1.3b) EXHAUST TUBING/SIZE: Any tubing size permitted. 1.3c) TAILPIPE & EXHAUST RULES: Not required. 1.3d) MUFFLER REQUIREMENTS: Not required. 1.5 FUEL DELIVERY SYSTEM DELIVERY SYSTEM: Fuel cells, electric or mechanical fuel pumps, pressure regulators, and any line size permitted. Fuel pump must shut off with a master electrical switch. Stock gas tank (if used) must be retained in factory location. Modified fuel pickups & outlet permitted. Aftermarket/fabricated fuel tank or cell permitted. Must be located in trunk area. If tank or fuel filler is inside trunk, a bulkhead of minimum .032†aluminum or .024†steel must be used between trunk and driver compartment, and tank must be vented to outside of car. When used, fuel cells must have a metal box protecting the part of the fuel cell that is outside the trunk floor. Non-metallic fuel cells or tanks must be grounded to frame. See NHRA General Regulations Section 1.5. 1.6 GASOLINE GASOLINE: Gasoline and E-85 is the only permitted fuel in LATE MODEL EFI classes. ALCOHOLrohibited. NITROUS OXIDE: Permitted. 1.9 OIL SYSTEM Oiling System: OEM Style (Wet or Dry Sump, as equipped), required. 1.10 SUPERCHARGER SUPERCHARGER: Permitted. 1.15 BLOCK BLOCK: Any permitted. 1.16 ENGINE LOCATION\MOUNTS Engine Location/Mounts (LATE MODEL EFI CLASSES): Not regulated. 1.17 HEADS HEADS: Aftermarket cylinder heads permitted. 1.18 VALVETRAIN VALVETRAIN: Any valve train permitted. 1.19 CARBURETOR CARBURETOR (LATE MODEL EFI CLASSES): Prohibited. 1.20 FUEL INJECTION FUEL INJECTION: Only electronic fuel injection is accepted. 1.21 INTAKE MANIFOLD INTAKE MANIFOLD: Sheet metal intake prohibited. Manifolds restricted to commercially available cast or plastic units. 1.22 SOLENOIDS SOLENOIDS: Any accepted. 1.23 TURBOCHARGER TURBOCHARGER: Accepted 1.24 AFTERCOOLER/INTERCOOLER AFTERCOOLERS/INTERCOOLER: Accepted. 2: DRIVETRAIN 2.3 CLUTCH CLUTCH: Clutch operation must be manually applied and disengaged with foot during run. 2.4 DRIVESHAFT Driveshaft: Any permitted. 2.11 REAREND REAREND: Any automotive type rearend permitted. 2.12 MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS MANUAL TRANSMISSION: OEM or aftermarket transmissions with a maximum of 6 forward speeds permitted. Clutchless transmissions prohibited. All shifts must be made manually without the aid of electric, hydraulic or pneumatic devices. Starting line rev limiters permitted. Torque converter not permitted with this type transmission. 2.13 PURPOSE BUILT TRANSMISSIONS PURPOSE BUILT TRANSMISSIONS: Prohibited. 2.14 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS (OEM American transmissions or replicas of OEM American transmissions that use planetary gears) Transbreak Prohibited. AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS: Automatic transmissions originally produced by any American automobile manufacturer or replicas of an automatic transmission produced by any American automobile manufacture (Ex. Deadenbear PG transmission) are accepted. Transbreak Prohibited. 3: BRAKES & SUSPENSION 3.1 BRAKES BRAKES: The braking system may be upgraded. 3.2 SHOCK ABSORBERS SHOCK ABSORBERS: Each vehicle in competition must be equipped with one operative shock absorber for each sprung wheel. Shock absorbers may be either hydraulic or friction type, securely mounted and in good working order. 3.4 SUSPENSION FRONT SUSPENSION: Stock front suspension required. Aftermarket direct replacement suspension components including A-arms permitted. REAR SUSPENSION: Stock-type rear suspensions required. Ladder bars, four-links prohibited. 3.6 WHEELIE BARS WHELLIE BARS: Wheelie bars prohibited. 4: FRAME 4.4 FRAME FRAME (LATE MODEL EFI CLASSES): Stock frame required but may be strengthened with the addition of braces and subframe connectors. Back-half chassis and mini-tubs are prohibited. 4.5 GROUND CLEARANCE GROUND CLEARANCE: Minimum 3 inches from front of vehicle to 12 inches behind centerline of front axle; 2 inches for remainder of vehicle, except oil pan and exhaust headers. 4.12 WHEELBASE WHEELBASE (LATE MODEL EFI CLASSES): Must retain stock wheelbase with a maximum variation from left to right and front to back of 1 inch. Stock overhangs are required. 5: TIRES & WHEELS 5.1 TIRES TIRES: Street type, drag radial, or drag slick tires permitted. Maximum racing tire rear width is 11.0-inches as measured (slicks) or 345mm with a drag radial or street radial. The front tires are limited to 4.5-inch minimum tread width. The tread of the tires is not allowed to protrude outside the exterior bodyline at the top of the tire. 6: INTERIOR 6.1 INTERIOR INTERIOR (LATE MODEL EFI CLASSES): Must have full factory seating, upholstery, and carpeting. Aftermarket upholstered bucket seats permitted. Full dashboard mandatory. Aftermarket gauges permitted. Rear seat may be removed when roll bar/cage is installed. Area must be carpeted or upholstered equivalent to factory specifications (no bare paneling). 7: BODY LATE MODEL EFI CLASSES: Exterior body modifications are permitted. 7.1 ADVERTISING GRAPHICS/LETTERING: Graphics/lettering for advertising or creative purposes permitted on entire body. CONTINGENCY DECALS: In order to be eligible for NMCA-Edelbrock official contingency program, all contingency decals are required to appear only on the rear quarter windows or rear window in a clear and organized fashion. Contingency decals may not be overlapped or modified. Other decals and sponsorship (non-contingency) may appear on bodywork, front end, and on windows. NMCA-Edelbrock REQUIRED DECALS: The following decals are required for competition in NMCA-Edelbrock events. NMCA-Edelbrock Windshield Decal – must be installed on top of windshield. This NMCA-Edelbrock decal must be the only decal on top of windshield. Other vehicle sponsor decals may be placed at base of windshield. NMCA-Edelbrock 2008 Drag Racing Series “Side†Decals – must be installed on each side of vehicle on quarter windows. Class Sponsor Decal – class sponsor decal must be installed on base of windshield on the passenger side. Permanent Numbers – permanent numbers are required for competition in this class. 7.2 SPOILERS, WINGS SPOILERS, WINGS: Aftermarket wings and/or spoilers permitted. 7.5 FIREWALLS FIREWALLS: Stock firewall in stock location mandatory. 7.6 FLOOR/TRUNK PAN FLOOR/TRUNK PAN: Complete stock floor in stock location mandatory. Floor/Trunk Pan modifications permitted for clearance purposes of fuel cell accepted. Material to be used if there are floor/truck pan modification is limited to same type material and same or greater thickness as original floor/trunk pan. 7.7 HOOD/SCOOP Hood/Scoop (LATE MODEL EFI Classes): Cowl induction hoods accepted may be no higher than 5 inches. Hood scoops prohibited. The entire induction system must be completely covered by hood or scoop, which must be part of the vehicle hood. 7.9 WINDSHIELDS/WINDOWS Windshield/Windows: Must be OEM safety glass 7.12 GRILLE Grille: A full-production grille is required for the body style used. Covering in front of or behind the grille prohibited. 7.13 WHEEL WELLS INNER Wheelwells: Stock wheel tubs required. OUTER FENDERS: Leading and trailing edges of fenders may be trimmed for tire clearance, maximum 2â€. 7.14 RAM AIR RAM AIR: Permitted. 7.15 DOORS Doors: OEM doors required. 8: ELECTRICAL 8.1 BATTERY BATTERY: Battery may be relocated. Charging system required. 8.3 Ignition IGNITION: Any battery powered ignition system permitted. 8.5 STARTER STARTER: All entries must be self-starting with on-board starter. 9: SUPPORT GROUPS Bracket racing aids such as optical sensors, delay boxes, stutter boxes, and throttle stops prohibited. The application or use of any device, mechanical or electronic, that permits the driver to ascertain the position of their vehicle in relation to the starting line is prohibited. 9.2 ONBOAED DIAGNOSTICS/DATA RECORDERS ONBOARD DIAGNOSTICS/DATA RECORDERS: Onboard diagnostics and data recorders used to monitor and record parameters such as a driveshaft speed, acceleration, nitrous timing, chassis strain, suspension travel etc., accepted. Wide band oxygen sensors permitted. “Playback†tachometers permitted. Laptops permitted in vehicle. 9.8 TOW VEHICLES TOW VEHICLES: Vehicles may not be towed in or to staging lanes. Vehicles may not be towed from the return road. 10: DRIVER 10.4 CREDENTIALS CREDENTIALS: See general regulations. 11: CLASS & SAFETY REQUIREMENTS It is the participant’s responsibility to familiarize oneself with the class requirements as found in the 2008 NMCA-Edelbrock rulebook and the safety requirements as found in the 2008 NHRA rulebook. The participant agrees that the participant bears the ultimate responsibility at all times to ensure the safety of participant’s vehicle and to ensure that participant complies with all applicable NHRA & NMCA-Edelbrock rules. The participant agrees that participant is in the best position to know about the construction and operation of participant’s vehicle, equipment, and clothing, and whether there has been compliance with all applicable NHRA & NMCA-Edelbrock rules. 12: STREET LEGAL REQUIREMENTS Headlights and tail lights for year & make of body used mandatory. 13: WEIGHT WEIGHT: Weight is not a tech item however excessive lightening as determined by the tech officials will not be permitted. Last Updated: January 3, 2008
I really can't say when I'll be ready to go yet. I still need to have a clutch built as well as a driveshaft. Then more boost!!! I think most other issues are resolved except I need some experience to figure this whole deal out. That was my reason for going to drag school with Frank Hawley. I'm hoping to make Bradenton NMCA in late March if possible. Since my car is still very much "in process" I just can't say where and when. I do know I look forward to having a lot of fun with this car. You know I wish you well now that you have the s/c installed and all the waiting b/s is done. Can't wait to see what you can do now. With no experience I'm not in the same league. But I look forward to learning as much as possible as I progress forward and hope I can run some respectable times down the line. By next year I would like to run NMCA in the eastern and midwest races as much as possible.
:thanks: Gonna be a tuff year, Weve set some high goals, Gonna take it a step at a time, So far every time out we bested ourselves so Im expecting another jump Sat the 21st, Hopefully into the 10's on 3.5lbs of boost, Then with High Boost and some rearend work were gonna be going for the gusto! Stay tuned!
chris, i gotta say im pretty excited for you dude. i dont get excited much about domestics much anymore but yours is truly an awesome machine. 4400 pounds rumbling down the quarter in low 10s or better as a DD is an awesome achievement.
