AirHammer WOT driveby video

Hi Mike, do you have a link to that independant testing??
On your website you claim certain H.P. and torque numbers but dont give us a link to the independant testing.

All I can find is this thread...http://www.srt8oc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14369&highlight=bwoody
Now you see here is the problem, How is this test independant or credible and the same goes for you claims on your website, please provide documentation to quantify your public claims.
We think you need to look at our test criteria, the same testing methods used for the Jmatt test outlined earlier. (see below HAMMER AUTOMOTIVE INC. test proceedures).

Most of us are aware of the outragous claims of improved H.P. and Torque made by certain manufacturers of air intakes on there websites.
A fundamental goal of HAMMER automotive is to accurately document our claims. Ones which you, the consumer can easily reproduce under normal operating conditions in all enviroments.
Further to educate the consumer as to inaccurate claims made by these companies.
We do this through public testing, allowing the geneal public to come to a dyno with us and try all the different intakes available for there car, we supply these, having done so we then install an AIRHAMMER and demonstrate a documentable improvement over our competition, not to mention showing just how outragous some of these claims, made by other Companies really are.


Bwoody I am not saying your claims are inaccurate just that if you are going to make certain claims please honor us with a link to the testing, it only fair to the customer.


Gotstroke, In our opinion your test lacks the crucial information required by any customer to make a fair assesment of a product.
Here is what you didnt include;

Where was it tested ?
Was the vehicle stock ?.
What fuel was used ?
Was the PCM reset between runs ?
Were tire pressures stock ?
Were there any independant people there to verify the tests and if so who were they ?
What was the date the dyno was last calibrated ?



HAMMER AUTOMOTIVE INC. test proceedures
We test everything with a FULLY HOT engine and all other fluid temps brought to normal operating temperatures i.e. Differential fluids, transmission fluids, wheelbearing etc..
Vehicles are idled in the parking lot and turned off just long enough to get them safely strapped down.
All vehicles tested with lowest manufacturer recommended octane.
Vehicle is idled on the dyno between pulls.
PCM memory reset between different intakes but not between runs on the individual intake.
First run is a reheat run to make sure that the engine and fluids are still HOT.
Runs are done back to back, no cool down.
All runs are SAE corrected with smoothing 5.
All tire pressures are stock and remain so.
All runs done in front of at least 3 people who can be identified.

Information gathered
AFR.
Coolant Temp log.
Oil Temp log.
Air Temp log
Wheel speed values
Tire pressure check
Rate of rise for acceleration
Exhaust temp log.
Date of last calibration of Dyno.
SAE certified dyno
I will gladly supply the dyno phone numbers, addresses; company name/owner, operator name, and actual dyno run files.
The only things I do during the run are change out the intakes and observe the test.
All runs are photo documented.

WHY WE ACCURATELY DOCUMENT OUR TESTS
The one thing we want our customers to know about us is that when we claim a specific set of Horsepower and Torque claims that these are Proven, Documented, Verifiable and repeatable claims
These conditions attemt to replecate, to the best of our ability real world driving conditions, you the consumer, will experience using our products..

As a company, we are deeply troubled by horsepower and torque claims made by other companies related to there intakes and are waging war on these false claims.

This is why we publish our test results for all of our intakes and outline precisely our methodology for testing. See for yourself, find one of our competitors websites and closely examine testing methods and claims, you will find a serious lack of information as to how the test was performed which is why we feel most of these claims are false. For comparative purposes, see our test methods listed above.

Knowing this is why we have issued a direct challenge to any manufacturer of currently produced intakes.
Our intake will beat the H.P. and Torque output of ANY existing bolt on intakes currently available in the market today based on our test methods, as compared to the AIRHAMMER for the 5.7 and 6.1 HEMI engine, RAMHAMMER for the 5.7 RAM truck and H.O AIRHAMMER for the 3.5 L engine.

To date no company has been willing take our challenge


We feel you work hard for your money and should not be ripped off for the sake of a dollar which is why we are openly waging war against these companies and there false claims.

To this we will be holding a series of events throughout the U.S. this year where we will publicly test many of our competitors products against ours using the test method outlined above to document just how erroneous the claims are from some of the manufacturers.

 

Where did I say it was made of Aluminum..., and yes as a manufacturer, it does matter to us the material quality, which origin may play a factor in its overall performance We care to unsure the customer get a quality product and go to great lengths to ensure the quality of materials used, why; welding Aluminum is actaully extremly difficult, different grades take different techniques also when joining 2 pieces, if not done properly the joint will fail in a short time, breaking of attachments etc..so yes we do care about our customer and the value he/she receives for there hard earned money.

Yes we are, look at the claims made by K& N do you really believe there intake makes 21 H.P. at peak??
I agree that a 5000lb truck needs more than 3 ftlbs of torque at peak RPM to make a difference but you see here lies the problem, you are only reading a very narrow sement of the performance, when in fact you should look at the torque created early in the RPM band, where these trucks need it, getting the thing moving!
Again this is where the AIRHAMMER and upcomming THORHAMMER show signifigant gain over the competition.

FYI;
We are a small company battling giants like K & N.
HAMMER AUTOMOTIVE INC. was started a bit more than a year ago, and the Owner Scott still holds a part-time job elsewhere to ensure no money is taken from the Company. Infact most of the profits from sales are put back into the company to ensure we can mange our growth.

Also;
Last week our suppliers and ourselves battled the worst Tornadoes in 10 years in Alabama and Tennessee, where we are located and we are still cleaning up the mess.
We have attempted 2 test sessions within the last 2 weeks,the first test failed due to dyno operator mistakes, the most recent test was thwarted by customer trucks that were not working properly.

Again we have another round of testing to document our claims of making the best intake for these trucks being done on Monday.
Scott the owner having worked 20 hours a day thought the weekend will get up at 3 am on Monday and drive 8 hours to a qualified dyno so that we have the correct data to publish.

 

A rather good explanation...even if it seems the arrival of this CAI has taken an uncomforably long time. Be nice to see it appear.

Then Tri-Ban,er Stroke :beer:, can do his duel to the death CAI comparo.

 

lol, only twice bro....

 

Give him time. Its a trifecta just waiting to happen! opcorn::cheers:

 

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PLEASE use a Dynojet, and for everyones sake put the hood down....

 

and that is how Bwoody was tested? proof?

and HE didnt claim the numbers, reread other posts (your favorite line, reread my posts), it was the customer who saw the Dyno and claimed it.

 

SRTConnection prefers Dynojet SAE Smoothing 5.

I believe the closest thing to street is with a big fan and the hood closed. I know that most dyno with the hood up, but think about it. We don't drive down the street with the hood open. Well, at least I dont'. LOL

 

Nope, thats Stage3_RT lol.

But I think its hard to replicate circumstances regardless.

 

Im not going to read every post made by him to prove you wrong, but I am going to say that there were comments made by him stating his CAI would be the best. Very big and rude assumption this early on.....

Also whether or not the Bwoody had the hood open or not, it will not affect the outcome at all. Whether it was open or close does would not affect the outcome because of the way the intake is routed...

Also, Mike will probably chime in and answer that question for you....I dont want to say anything I am not certain of. But I am 99% gotstroke had the hood down?

 

SHOW ME!
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true, its rude to say you have a good intake...why would anyone do that.

Did Mike or Andy do the testing?

 

Please re-read your own posts and figure out which you prefer!

 

I really don't see why you guys are calling BWoody out? Why don't you spend less time arguing with potential customers and other vendors and more time focused on getting your product to market?

 

If I questioned your reputation or product would you just let it go..

We have learned through experience that some people are simply trying to discredit us and our products (shills for other companies) this is a tough industry, welcome to our playing field...

 

From what I can tell, BWoody has found itself a nice little niche market in the GCSRT. They have certainly proven themselves in their market the same way Hammer Automotive has with the LX and Ram crowds.

Of course, as the old saying goes in business, "if you're not growing, you're dying". Hammer Automotive is looking to expand into new markets with their products, but they have met fierce criticism from those appearing to protect BWoody's dominant position in the GCSRT intake aftermarket.

I am not a confrontational type, but it seems obvious to me that Hammer Automotive is using an aggressive marketing technique to make a name for themselves. It is certainly risky taking this approach, but if the new ThorHammer works as advertised, then the payoff would be huge IMHO.

Flame on! :starwars:

 

lol, Id like to see Lance from a thousand plus miles away from Hammer Automotive speed up the building process. He is trying defend YOUR negative comments, along with others.

 

Honestly, I'm just sick of all the drama. It's good that there is going to be another product for us.

 

I don't think there was this much drama over first SC kit from GSM.

For the record, I want the new I-charger.