My car had a ghetto pod when I bought it privately. It had a narrowband, which he said wasn't hooked up right since it wasn't tapped into the downpipe or anything. The other gauge was a oil pressure gauge that WAS hooked up and running. Well the pod was nasty and I didn't like it. So I bought a new dual pillar from MPX that looks OEM looking. It sucked, because the gauges can't come out through the back, so I had to take off the wires off the back of the gauges. Never got around to hooking the oil pressure back up, so now I am stuck with poseur gauges that do nothing. :supergay: I want to get rid of BOTH of them and get a wideband and oil temp gauge. I want to take them off but I notice there is a lot of electrical tape. Not sure what he tapped into, but I don't want to take these gauges out and have the car not working. Any advice on taking them out and what do you guys recommend for gauges. I have a dual pillar so two is enough. thanks!
as long as you put the wires that he tapped into back together the car should run fine. just go slow when removing things and make sure that wires are put back together properly. if you have a functioning oil pressure gauge that's a much better option than a oil temp gauge. pressure is more important than temperature in terms of knowing if you're in trouble with the motor. a wideband is always a good idea. the aem and the innovate are the two most popular, both are good gauges. the aem is a little cheaper but also does less, so it's really up to you which one you go with.
First off, bite the bullet and clean up the mess. Take the tape off and see just how bad it is and fix it right if needed. re-wire, re-splice, whatever. If it's a crappy job it's going to fail sooner or later whether you mess with it now or not. First rate gauges with more bling and flexibility than you can imagine? PLX. www.plxdevices.com
the plx's are nice gauges, but i was never a fan of the whole module thing. more cost that isn't necessary imo.
Think of it as a life accessory. Right now it might be AFR and oil temp. When you get that diesel truck you might want to add an EGT sensor and OBDII module, all still displayed on your single programmable OLED display which you customized to look just like your stock dash gauges. Or maybe add another display to split out one of the sensors... :dribble:
I will take the dash apart for the first time and check everything out. My buddy recommended an oil temp. . hmmmm. The AEM seems more user friendly.
I got a Triple pod pillar and I have Dual Aero Force Interceptor scan gauges and below that I have my stock boost gauge for the time being and will move it back to the stock pod once I install my AEM Wideband gauge in the car. After I get my Stage 3 installed I'm going with a Defi Blue Racer 30psi boost gauge and might want to put that with the scan gauges and install the wideband in the stock pod.
stillaneon - not sure where you got that quote from, but we all only wish that was the way that it worked. if you lose oil pressure you go boom. there will probably be a CEL, but that's about it. and with the way that these cars throw codes most people would just initially ignore it anyway. oil pressure is much more important to know than temperature, and there's a reason it's a staple in many cars.
Just an out of a blue question... Is a wideband really necessary? I mean, if you are still running PCM control boost and really don't have plans to go big turbo since its a daily driver, just doing bolt ons and spiking a couple more pounds of boost. Givin those circumstances,is it really worth the $250? I know it tells you if you are running rich or lean, but thats all it really does. A good "tuning tool" in other words. So if you are running rich, well you have to do something to lean it out and vice versa with running too lean, which I been told is worse than running rich. I could spend $250 on other things for my car and was wondering if its really neccessary and whats everyones views on one. Is it like a must have for a SRT-4 owner? I would like to get one, but I don't want to be dissastified and be like, "wow I just spend $250 on this AEM Uego and all it does is til me if I am running rich or lean, wow." lol My guess its a good thing to have if you plan on taking your Neon to the limit, not really sure how far I personally want to go with my car. Maybe a bigger intercooler and thats that. I have posted what my other mods are.
yes it's really necessary. a wideband is more than just a tuning tool. it's a don't-blow-up-your-motor tool. if you're running lean you can, and will over time, pop the motor. if you have no wideband you have no idea if you're running rich or lean. anytime anyone starts playing with boost they should have a wideband. even going from 14 to 17psi in these cars can make you dangerously lean in some cases, and if you don't have something to monitor that you have no idea. personally i'd rather spend the $300 on a wideband and know what's going on with my car rather than not know and spend $1500 on a new block later on. that's basically the decision you're making.
Good point. How about running stock boost levels? So you believe this extra $250 should go towards a wideband in my case? I am getting the car dynod with AFR this weekend and we shall see if she is running lean.
if you're stock then you're running rich lol. these cars are pigs from the factory. if you're changing the boost level, you need a wideband, it's really just that simple.
