Take it as a compliment! :yahoo: If this is true, and without the intent of flinging anything at anyone, this would put you 3-4 tenths quicker than the same stage II type package that most other vendors offer. So, the question is, what is it that's causing the difference....and I'm not saying it's N20 but inquiring minds want to know, especially those in the market for a similar setup. Nice runs for sure brother. :beerchug:
Actually it only puts him 2 tenths quicker,Philly John ran 11.98 and on a 1.8 60',so they differences in time could be as little as track prep or as much as tune.The North East tracks open soon and I am sure Philly John will be looking to counter......not to mention everyone else out here.
Great time, but I dunno...I've seen a 12.19 with a full interior on stock heads/cam/block/exhaust, just a CAI, Predator, DR's and serpentine belt removed...so high 11s are definitely possible and not that unbelievable. Not trying to take away what you've done by any means here though, you're burning up the track!!! The people who don't know anything about these cars that watch you must be like W...T...F??? Eric
Does someone have a link to those HP/ET calculators. I remember using one of those and to move 4,500 to 11.5 takes like 575hp. I don't know if it was at the wheels or not but I did check it out once upon a time. C.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm Without knowing the exact weight of DVS' car it's showing 537hp at the crank.......I certainly think his car is making that.
So it says it takes 544 hp to get 11.78. I know it isn't an exact science, but it is in the ballpark. He said he rolls off the line and then hits it. There has to be another 20 or so hp necessary for half shaft preservation. That makes upwards of 550hp. Can heads and a cam and a tune give you 550hp at the crank. I think they can. I saw GSM putting down 400+ at the wheels on many an SRT on his open house / tune day. Edit: Just ran his MPH using the calculator and it says he needs 601hp to go 117.60 MPH. C.
Whose setup is Philly John running? They're both flyin down the track. That's awesome to hear. There are other setups that are in direct competition to HHP's Stage II and tune that run 3-4 tenths slower? No? Reason I ask is that I'm very interested in Stu's big valve heads and as for cam IDK yet but perhaps the SRT Max from Inertia. Not the Hell version though like NYC (Will) is getting.
What the hell did you put in to get that?Even using 4500lbs which I don't think he weighs I only get 571 crank for mph and 496 crank for ET. At 4300 lbs which I think is a more realistic weight for a 300 it's 545 for mph and 474 for et.Either way I think these #'s are realistic for a head/cam 6.1.
That's what I was saying...HHP's package seems to be running better than 'other' competing packages from vendors. PPP's stage II package runs a best of what? I really can't remember...Frank's, Hemi Shop's (Inertia now) I know a hell of a lot of variables are intervening from track, conditions, tunes and the like...but in terms of best times ran (that we know of) from the Stage II-like package cars...DVS and Philly Johns's are quick...don't know what Ozzy runs either. Now Curtis, if you reading, you need to get to the track my friend.. We should hook up with JMatt on April 22nd. I would watch with envy but still run it.
Hey Erik. I know the East coast tracks will be probably running some serious negative DA when they open back up. Sacramento does not. I think they get in the +500 to +750 range on a good day. So it's even more impressive running 11.70's at 117. The thought process would be that DV would run even quicker at say Atco, and east coast cars would run slower out here. I'm less than 15 minutes from Sacramento Raceway at this minute. Carl (FAST56K) came to Sac a week or two ago and ran Reaction .012, 60' 1.686, ET 11.641, MPH 116.805. He didn't get into the 11's at the Rumble. Same setup a week before. Maybe got another CMR tune from GSM, not sure. So about a tenth difference with a 426 over a stock block. This by no means takes anything away from Carl, it does shows how impressive a stock block H/C runninng 11.7's at 117 is. So in theory, DV could run .3 to .5 quicker at Atco. And Atco guys could possibley run .3 to .5 slower at Sacramento. DA in the afternoon at the Rumble was around 2850, and I had the only car in the 11's (11.85)when the DA got that high with 19 degrees of timing and a 100 shot. We need DV to come to Spring Fest to run with other fast cars to see how he fares.
I agree Hal.I haven't seen those crazy DA's in almost 2 years though due to the fact that by the time the air gets like that down there I am snowed in.I would think realistically the difference would only be a tenth or so different.Either way DVS has a beast.For someone claim that his runs are improbable cause a few stroker guys can't run as fast is stupid.
Take a look at these. These are from me at sac. The DA was a -262. I know for a fact just how strong the HHP cam runs up top. My little 268 dies out and that modified 273 just keeps climbing. Plus with raised shift points, DVS and Phillyjohn and Ozzie can take full advantage of it. At this time, I'm still running a BnG that is not able to keep up anymore.
I didn't think the DA got that low. Well that would definately help a little. DV, what was the DA on your 11.7X run?
I would love to run at Spring fest , but i have to leave on Sunday because i gotta work Monday morning at 5am and my daughter has school. Thats why i wanted to plan something out that Friday but i don't want to take anything away from the Ozzie Fest. It seems like the guys have been coming up North alot so I'm gonna have to hook up with them and take a saturday off.Just give me a couple week in advance.
I used that DA calculatator and it came up -182 I don't know if i did it right . I'm using Sacramento info but the track is more like in Rancho Cordova .The info I'm getting is location of Sacramento airport I don't know if that make any difference Sac. airport is like 20- 25miles away .
Certainly close enough for internet speculation. Those are some smoking times you ran there. Congradulations! Thats going to be a tough record to break.
