90mm TB Dyno Results!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  1. PPPAndy

    PPPAndy New Member

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    Tune is included. I doubt the price will be that low, as it will be a billet unit. Dont hold that against me as pricing isnt set yet.
     
  2. HEMISFEAR

    HEMISFEAR Ur Friendly Canadian

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    Just a guess....since Corvette TB's are priced a little lower than this...but again, I'm fully aware that the SRT8's a prone to high pricing because of the R&D.
     
  3. GotStroke?

    GotStroke? Banned

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    I agree with Hal.

    Claiming you've made 500rw (STD) isn't the same as making 500rw SAE. Why even bother with STD, it's just for stroking egos.

    Again, anything on your UD pulleys?
     
  4. 8yourM5

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    We already shipped 30 out, did you not get one. lol. It will be a couple months.[/QUOTE]
    thanks sounds good. So it would be easier to order a ported intakmanifold and let you match it all up and get both pieces at the same time
     
  5. Leadfootluke

    Leadfootluke New Member

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    :salut: yes sir! I dont doubt that about them, only other things. :clap:

    I may retract that statement since the price is most likely north of $500, but if nothing else needs to be modified for this to work, that will be awesome.
     
  6. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    yep curtis!!!! like how you are assuming you and i will be purchasing this product....... hahahahahaah i like how you think!!!!
     
  7. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    well, seeing as andy is saying to send whatever current tune you are running in order to change a/f ratios, i am sure it will only get better!!!!
     
  8. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    always is!!!!!! i have every single version, tune, original back up, etc!!!!! just hope the computer does not take a dump!! hahahaha
     
  9. PPPAndy

    PPPAndy New Member

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    A silicone adapter is about $20.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-3-...017QQitemZ270208994171QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

    It will not change the position of the cai as you currently have a 3"-3" adapter that thos will take the place of. Then you buy the TB. It will not be $1000 total I can assure you. As for the tuning, WOT fuel will be adjusted as well as allowable air/flow tables for idle. The rest of the tune will be intouched. You could also take it to another CMR tuner and they could tune for it also.
     
  10. PPPAndy

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    Im curious what other things you doubt?
     
  11. JMatt

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    Except in this case the actual number is irrelevant. It's a comparison of the same vehicle with a mod. It's the delta that matters, and as noted, the delta is within 1 hp no matter how you measure it.

    But in general I agree. Every single dyno pull should be reported SAE, smoothing 5. There's not a good reason not to report it that way to start with.
     
  12. Cam

    Cam Management up n smoke

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    Drive ability brother. I'll be impressed when you can cruz this baby for better then 40 miles and not have it go into limp mode.

    Now for the other guys that question if this makes power. Yes it does and it does it big!!. Just remember one thing, you need to have a ride that is capable of breathing properly to take advantage of this unit. Is this a mod for a slightly modded stocker.........no, not IMO. Is it a god send for a heavy hitter, spend the money you won't be disappionted.


    Also, if you want to take full advantage of this. Just count a custom CAI and porting of the manifold.

    And if you asking how I know, well lets just say that I've been playing with a something along these line for a long time. And have dozens of dyno's proving what works and doesn't work.

    Like I offered before Andy, I'm the only guy out there that has a 90mm intake, just let me know when you want to experiment with the damn thing properly. :secret: :flipout:
     
  13. Quick

    Quick Mgmt. - I can't help you

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    Heh, wait just a minute here... you made that tease that you were going to post in the coated manifold thread. How did this jump the que? :hmm:
     
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    Quick Mgmt. - I can't help you

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    Lol, sounds like one of those marketing anomolies. If you price it at $1000 or more you'll sell a lot more than if you price it lower.
     
  15. PPPAndy

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    I appreciate the offer, but you are not the only one with a 90mm intake. We have a few that we will be playing with.

    With all of the following at our disposal, we have the capability to produce many more as well.

    5-Axis CNC Milling Machines - we use these for cylinder head port and machine work and intake port work. From Prostock to street, these machines can convert a raw cast block to a completely machined head in about 7 hours. Originally designed for aerospace work, there are few machines like this, and we have 2 of them.

    Heavyload 5-Axis CNC - same as above but with extra size and power to handle bigger and beefier parts.

    3-Axis CNC Mills – we have 5 of these, mainly for prototyping of small parts.

    3-Axis Bed Mill – features a custom rollover fixture for block machining. Fully conversational, it generates code on-the-fly, not raw code and tool path input like many machines. Can be used like standard 3-axis machine if needed.

    2-Axis Computerized Lathe - custom tooled for us, it is used to cut pulleys: including both v-belt and serpentine.

    Manual Lathes - we have 2: one for piston cutting with custom tools; and one for manual turning and prototyping.

    Manual Mills - we have several of these, many with custom attachments built in house to do work on specific applications. They all have digital readouts for precision custom work and all of them have pneumatic (air powered) tool changers.

    Crank Balancer – this machine is computerized, like most on the market today. Our difference in this area is the experience of our people who run this equipment.

    Renishaw Digitizer – this machine is used to “reverse engineer†and generate workable computer models from a physical prototyped part. Most often used for cylinder heads and intakes, but can be used on any parts.

    Head Surfacer - grinds down the deck of the head to obtain the correct cc’s for proper compression within the finished engine.

    Newen Epoc CNC Valve Seat Machine - this cylinder head machine utilizes a single tool to contour valve seats. It is phenomenal at cutting the extra hard valve seats in late model heads, but otherwise is used primarily for R&D because of its superb accuracy. At the touch of a button you can change the angle or radius on a specialized touch screen computer interface. Whereas a manual machine can cause deflection and uses a single cutter to do all angles, this machine cuts 1/300th at a time for almost no deflection.

    Manual Seat and Guide Machine – cutting seat pockets and boring out guides are sometimes still done the classic way. There are some things machines just can’t do, and that is where our professionals, their rock solid skills and their proven experience take over with this older-style Serti 100 machine. We cut special applications by hand, for that personal touch.

    Guide Hone - this custom-made machine uses liquid jets to hone the valve guides to 1/10000th inch accuracy.

    Valve Grinders – these precision instruments are used primarily in valves for street machines and stock engines. Our precision engine builders use them to achieve increased seal and efficiency. Interestingly, we don’t use these machines to grind race valves, because our race valves are manufactured so precisely, grinding them on this machine can actually reduce the seal and efficiency.

    Spring Testers - we have 3 of these machines, which are used to test forces the valve springs produce. We test our springs before and after usage to ensure uniformity through the entire compression and depression loading of the spring. We also test for load loss after heavy and light usage and abuse on our dynamometers and the track.

    Vertical Head Honing Machine - controls the size and finish of the cylinder head; bores vertically only. We have 2 of these - one uses water as a lubricant, the other uses oil. Both are computer controlled.

    Horizontal Borer - bores cam tunnels and main lines, this is also used to repair badly damaged blocks and create custom blocks from scratch.

    Connecting Rod Machines - used to speed up process and improve productivity. We have 2 in house: one set up for large end, with automatic or “power-feed†to aid in manufacturing an even shaft; and one for small end, which is manual for more precise adjustments on the smaller end.

    Cap and Rod Grinder - used primarily to repair badly damaged heads, or to customize stock heads.

    Magnaflux - uses UV light and checks for cracks or imperfections that decrease the life and performance of the part. Magnetizes particles that cling to imperfections and cracks. Flow

    Benches - we have 3 Superflow flow benches. Highly customized from their factory specs, these are set up to measure airflow, swirl & tumble. Vigorous tests allow us to pinpoint flow problems within the head and improving the efficiency of the engine, intake manifold and throttle body or carburetor. Using these techniques we created an engine that at one point in its efficiency curve had a 100% combustion rating!

    Wet-flow Testing Booth – Our exclusive, this process is so secret the only thing we can tell you is that it is in a special room under a black cloth in the corner of the shop. This test can aid in visualizing flow through the complete intake track at running position. Hardness Tester - we have portable and bench top models. These measure the hardness of the materials and check for inconsistencies through those parts and from part to part comparatively for uniformity from one part to another.

    Coordinate Measurement Machine - the main piece of machinery for quality control that we use. This machine can measure every angle and deviation of surface down to 30 millionths of an inch (!!!) on any kind of part from valve seats to whole engines. Can also be use to digitize parts for solid modeling.
     
  16. Quick

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    Dammit... and I'm turning down my T-stat with a hand drill, paper towel, and metal file taped to the workbench.:cry2:
     
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    Does the term ADD ring a bell..........................:bye:






    As soon as I sober up, I'll get right on that. :prop:
     
  18. Cam

    Cam Management up n smoke

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    Andy, yup, I have no doubt your relationship with your suppliers allow you the oppertunity to have just a tad bit of fun.
     
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    Yes, its like a kid in a Candy factory, not just a candy store. lol.
     
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  20. hemi_charger

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    hmm looks like a stocker hogged out. so every thing should bolt up just fine not to shabby :)