Anyone have any good info on the Hondata, PX3, &/or boomba intake manifold gasket. Found a hondata used & don't know if it would be worth it. & are any of these worth the money...seems like people buy them but never really put a review if they really liked them or if there were any gains...
I'm pretty sure you comedians know that he is talking about the claims that these company's make about their specific plastic that greatly reduces the heat transfer. Modern Performance Boomba Its a good question. I think BTR has the carbon fiber valve cover and heat wrapped everything and is running the boomba. From what I remember him telling me his under hood temps were greatly decreased. But I'm sure you already knew that right?
i have a serious hard time believing that a gasket drastically decreases engine bay temps. was that test done by the same people that claim 47hp from an intake? there's a reason why people don't waste their money on them and just stick with the stock one.
he's asking for feedback if anyone has one and if they are worth the money. no they're not worth the money. posting info from a site trying to sell these products isn't feedback. again, there's a reason why people don't buy them and don't post feedback. the only gasket worth upgrading is the head gasket, and even that's questionable. many high hp cars are still using the stock ones with no problems. why waste money on things you don't need to?
Why is it a lot of these threads lately in this forum carry some mis-information. These gaskets work... its be proven period. If they were just a hoax companies would stop making them. You can't say something doesn't work without having first hand experience with the product. Assumptions are the worst and that's how people get lead in the wrong direction or get fed with mis-information. Its like saying, "hey, a paper gasket can be used between the throttlebody and intake manifold, go ahead and use it for a headgasket too." Brilliant... not! The one's who stick with the stock ones are because they mostly are too cheap to go invest in an aftermarket one that will yield greater results. How long will it take a $3 gasket to go vs one made of plastic? Exactly, replacing gaskets with original ones can be another bandaid. It's like getting cut, using a bandaid to protect the cut, saving it for the next cut and re-using it. Even if it doesn't decrease drastically engine temps but it decreases some... that's still good. Don't go by what people claim go by what the company tested and proved. Can't always believe what people say. Threadstarter is wanting information and reviews on it.
Juan if you want honest feedback on the intake manifold gasket from someone who actually has it on their car.... talk to Frank. He just installed his a couple/few weeks ago.
Some people will always go by the motto if it aint broke why fix it.. thats ok I'm usually ahead of them at the track.. every little bit helps :tooth:
im gonna have to agree with the misinformation point. i know of afew cars that have this and would like to see a post from them
thanks for the input guys...will def ask those that have it & see what they say... Obviously there are a lot of pro's & con's
they sell products because people buy them, not necessarily because they work. you obviously never took marketing 101. ever seen an infomercial? same concept. there are so many people out there that have no clue about anything that all a manufacturer has to do is play with some numbers and a graph and they can get people to believe anything. and you're a fool if you think that's not exactly what they do when trying to sell products. if engine temps are so high that you're spending money on upgraded gaskets to bring it down there are other issues around. it's not that i have a if it's not broke don't fix it attitude, it's that i have people that i talk to on a regular basis that are running the fastest srt's in the country and even they don't see a difference with these expensive gaskets. if 9 and 10s neons run perfectly fine with a stock manifold gasket i think it's good enough for me, and i have other more important things to spend money on.
Marketing 101? Lets try something alittle more convincing like physics 101 or better yet thermodynamics 101. The gasket is made of a thermally non conductive material which would minimize the heat from the block to transfer directly, through conduction, to the intake manifold. Since the only way to heat up the mani with one of these installed would be through convection. Since the engine is now a localized heat source the delta t on the manifold itself would be minimized. Therefore since you no longer have a large surface area radiating heat the overall underhood temps would in fact be lower as well as the intake temps directly in front of the cylinder. steps on soap box Now as a side note opinions are what make this side great but you are going to need to back it with some actual facts when it comes to things like this. The OP was asking for thoughts on a specific item and comments like "they suck stick with the stock one" are hardly productive in fact they are frustrating to those asking the question and those trying to provide help. /soapbox
thank you all for the feedback...obviously there are many opinions to this. Still trying to get info from those that have used it... I've ever gotten a response as this...and I quote "I've considered it but have weighed the pros and cons and decided against it. I have had phenolic spacers on carburated cars before and they make a HUGE difference in temps radiating from the intake to the carb. Prior to installing them the carburator would get too hot to touch after a short period of time. After installing it you could hold your hand on the carb and it would feel warm, but not unbearable. So the concept works, and works very well. The problem with a spacer on a fuel injected car is thus. When the engineers design the spray pattern of the fuel injectors they are designed to spray directly on the intake valves to cool them. When you add a spacer gasket they will no longer be at the correct angle to spray directly on the valves. There for not cooling them as well, and possibly shortening valve life which could result in bent valves, piston to valve contact, prematurely worn valve guides and so on. They will increase torque because a longer intake runner will make more torque and adding the spacer will make the runner longer. And they definitely lower temps because the material does not transfer heat from the head to the intake mani. But at what cost?" end quote This is much in debate...& I undertand why
see thats what Im talking about. I would say that under normal driving conditions with a few wromps for good mesure is fine, maybe a purpose built car that is always driven hard the bent valve "possibilty" could be cause for concern.
The fastest SRT-4's in the country have so much port work that these gaskets will hinder their performance since they don't match up to the ports. These 9 sec/10 sec SRT-4's are usually not daily drivers... so they can make hundreds upon hundreds of passes down the track and not worry about a $3 gasket since its only a few seconds. My point is even if the gasket isn't beneficial lets say... its still a better quality then the $3 replacement gasket and will last a lot longer then another stock replacement gasket. Which btw, there's only a few SRT-4's in the 10's with only (1) in the 9's. Unless your talking ALL drag car which I wouldn't put into this category. I have a Web Engineering degree by the way, I've taken business and marketing classes. You obviously don't know who your trying to correct in matters you don't know anything about. I was also a vendor, so marketing... yeah I know marketing and I've probably laid my hands on more SRT-4's then you have and worked on them more then you have.
