Don't get it ~ Why is my 06 Mag SRT such a "Dog"???

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  1. NOTPAID4

    NOTPAID4 Platinum Supporting Member

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    First, let my start off by saying I don't drive my SRT much; being disabled and NO longer being able to work, I have NO reason to drive much of anywhere other than the VA hospitals for checkups, etc. The only other places I really go is the FLEAMARKETS! My heart doctor has asked me to walk as much as possible and I find this it one FUN way to do a lot of walking. I'm sorry.... NOT taking it to the FleaMarket or the VA ~ terrible parking ~ LOL ~

    NOW, I get picked on "ALOT" 'cuz my 06 Magnum SRT just turned 8800 miles today. I "DO UNDESTAND" that the computer reads and adjust HOW you drive your car and I "baby" my more than I should, HOWEVER, WHEN I "nail" the throttle it has terrible response. It sounds great but really does NOT take off as expected! IN FACT, my car, will NOT even spin the tires on WOT take off. It IS the worse "high performance" car I have ever owned! IF it's truely because of the computer readjusting all the time ~ I think this SUX!

    Today I took it for a spin of about 60 miles and "mashed" the throttle every time I could and it's slow and I mean SLOW! When we left home, my wife took of in her 05 R/T and I could NOT catch her.
    By-the-way, I too, have an 05 R/T and I swear it's FASTER than my SRT, but I have 53,xxx miles on it!

    Is it simply 'cuz I don't "dog" it EVERY single time I drive it! I'm really confused as to the lackluster performance! IF, this is the case I believe it's a really poor way for a performance car to run! I, too, was told that AFTER about 7,000 miles it would get better, but it hasn't!

    Can I just pull FUSE #11 and START OVER!

    Help, I'm about ready to trade it OFF for a PERFORMANCE CAR!!!

    Sorry for the long RANT! Just really disappointed ~ Thats all!
     
  2. 1fastsedan

    1fastsedan Destroyer of Warranties

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    Start with disconnecting the battery for a few hours, that will reset the car. Then go beat the snot out of it and see how it performs.

    If its still a dog, then it could be your air filter, dirty valves, or O2 sensors. I have seen O2s be off without throwing codes and that will make your car run rich with lower than average power.
     
  3. NOTPAID4

    NOTPAID4 Platinum Supporting Member

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    My car has a BRAND NEW "Hammer Design" filter by LegMaker! It ran the same way with the stock filter. Also, I checked the tail pipe today and it's clean as a whistle... no black soot or anything! I even tried manual shifting thru the gears and it runs but NOT as good as it should. It has NEVER spun the back tires... stock or NOW my 22's! Don't DARE to take it to the dealer... they are idiots and wouldn't let them drive my 'go cart" ~ LOL~

    Many folks have asked me to try this ~ removing the #11 fuse and really driving it, but after I tried this... I saw NO difference. Didn't think about the 02 sensor. I have NO codes or anything and never had any!

    Maybe, I gotta keep it out of the city...NO slow driving ~ LOL~

    Also have never run anything in it but 93 octane gas! Tried different gas stations several times, thinking it may just be the gas...... NOPE!

    Also, my car is BONE STOCK except for the CAI!
     
  4. TNCHARGER

    TNCHARGER Moderator

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    If your tail pipe is not a little sooty you may be running lean for some reason......been a while for me with the 8 but it seems there was a procedure that would make the car come alive...cant remember what it was though.......definitely a problem if your wife's RT is beating you..........
     
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    Another thought...are you fully turning off your ESP?.....from the owner's manual...

    Full Off
    This mode is intended for off-highway or off-road use
    only and should not be used on any public roadways.
    This mode is entered by depressing and holding the
    “ESP Control Switchâ€￾ for 5 seconds when the vehicle
    is stopped and the engine is running. In this mode, all
    ESP and TCS stability features are turned off. After 5
    seconds, a chime will sound, the ESP/TCS Indicator
    Light will illuminate, and the ESP OFF message will
    appear in the Electronic Vehicle Information Center
    (EVIC). Refer to “Electronic Vehicle Information Center
    (EVIC)â€￾ in Section 4 of this manual. To turn ESP on
    again, momentarily depress the ESP Control Switch.
    This will restore the normal “ESP Onâ€￾ mode of
    operation.
    NOTE: The ESPOFF, or “ESP System Deactivatedâ€￾
    message — if equipped will display and the audible
    chime will resound when the gear selector is placed into
    the PARK position from any position other than PARK,
    and then moved out of the PARK position. This will
    occur even if the message was previously cleared.






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  6. NOTPAID4

    NOTPAID4 Platinum Supporting Member

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    My Mag is an 06 and doesn't do this ~ heard the early ones won't shut off like the newer models. I can hold mine in FOREVER AND GET NO CHIME... the light comes on but ESP is only partially disabled!
     
  7. King Savage

    King Savage Nasty Canasta

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    Weird...My Charger was a January 06 build and holding the ESP button down for a bunch of seconds gives me the chime and message on the EVIC...something like "ESP OFF" or whatever.

    I remember the SRT Engineers saying the difference between a single push (yellow squiggles on) and the push-hold-chime was irrelevent when it came to straight line acceleration...the difference between the two had to do with how much lateral control the computer controlled/allowed.
     
  8. BigAl470

    BigAl470 So Long Gay Boys!

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    what tune are you using with your predator and have you tried turning ESP off within that?
     
  9. Quick

    Quick Mgmt. - I can't help you

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    That would be correct.
    Push and release:
    - straight line traction control is disabled.
    - lateral traction control is relaxed. both in point of engagement and amount of correction.
    - ABS is still enabled.
    Push and hold:
    - straight line traction control is disabled.
    - lateral traction control is disabled.
    - ABS is still enabled.

    My Magnum has a build date of 1/25/06 and has the 2 stage disable.

    If you have installed a predator tune the torque management has been reduced. The traction control system uses the values from the torque management tables and is also reduced. Basically equivalent to a push-and-hold above. no need to push the button.

    The only thing that adapts to your driving style is the TCM/shifting. This will not effect launch.
     
  10. ALABAMA MSRT8

    ALABAMA MSRT8 Full Access Member

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    I think u need to drive ur maggie alot more often.open her up a few times,hit the interstate 140mph+ and she will be fine.
     
  11. Quick

    Quick Mgmt. - I can't help you

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    have you tried swaping cars for a run?
     
  12. TNCHARGER

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    The 06 Charger I had was an Oct 05 build...Going by the # etched in the hood it was # 419 off the line....it had the 2 stage ESP..
     
  13. NOTPAID4

    NOTPAID4 Platinum Supporting Member

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    MINE is bone stock, except for a CAI... NO predator! Have ONE but never got it figured out! I don't plan on using it on the SRT anyhow... probably on the R/T 'cuz I drive that way more! I have never looked for my build date though!

    I'll say again... my 05 R/T has WAY better throttle response!

    I'll get out there and try it again with some WOT take offs etc and see IF this helps any!

    Thanks so much for all the imput guys....

    I'm wondering NOW that I think about it.... IF it was because this was the dealer Owners ride.... a demo with 1,700 miles when I got it and it was over a year old then. I'll have had this 3 years in October!
     
  14. NOTPAID4

    NOTPAID4 Platinum Supporting Member

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    Yes, I drive my R/T a lot and like I've said the throttle response is WAY better and I don't believe I drive this any different than I do the SRT!
     
  15. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    jim - reset the tcm adaptives through your pred and then go beat the snot out of the car each time you take it out! these cars need to be driven!
     
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    budoboy Full Access Member

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    Yep, yaw control is disabled with ESP fully off. I only push the button once at the track and smoke 'em no problem.

    Weird problem. Is it really hot where you live right now? These cars don't like the heat. Do you carry heavy tools, lumber and concrete blocks in your trunk?

    Maybe throw the car on a dyno and see if your numbers are abnormal. If your numbers are typical then maybe you need to be recalibrated :)
     
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  17. Cam

    Cam Management up n smoke

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    Jim, why don't you try burning out that 3 year old tank of gas and see what happens :harhar::dunno2:



    But on a more serious note. Pull the plugs out of a couple of cylinders and inspect them. I have no idea how often you start and drive it. But there is always a chance of fuel contamination and you may have fouled a couple of plugs or even have slighty clogged injectors after long stints of no abuse.
     
  18. Quick

    Quick Mgmt. - I can't help you

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    No... I meant swapping cars with your wife for a run.
    Have Tee drive the SRT and you drive her R/T.
    If she still pulls away from you you'll know where the problem is

    :rofl::rofl::rofl::towel:
     
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    Cam Management up n smoke

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    And if she does beat you.......just swap wives and ditch that winner. :ilovesrtc:
     
  20. The "Reverend" CoolFlo

    The "Reverend" CoolFlo 300C - C = Classy!!

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    what octane gas are you running Jim??