I too got "SCREWED" by TECHCO, and CTP will come to the rescue...

Well, basically, you're right. It is the intercooler for the blower we're talking about. Still though, it is a small amount. Drain, flush, fill and then after burping the air out with a few hundred mile drive it took 10 oz. So if there's 10 oz of just air pockets to burp the overall capacity has to be much larger than that.

The owner's concern was that it was leaking (slowly or not) and would eventually render the intercooler ineffective resulting a hot charge causing detonation, conflagration, culminating with the apocalypse (which we can all now blame on Cam when it happens).

 

I am not, I doubt they would come on here. Plus I bet they are not wondering if they will be able to make next months mortgage, car payment, etc.

I knew you would check the IP. Should I put up a second firewall.

 

lol You can put up a second firewall, but I have ways around those as well. lol

Glad you are not the other two mentioned. :huglove:

 

I do math I anit so well in the english! It was meant to read other forums. Someone was told not to use the guys car b/c of the way he was on forums, that person(s) didn't listen.

Simple thing to do to put this guys mind at rest is what I said, measured amount in, burp it, make sure the intercooler pump is not surging, that is a tell tale sign that there is a ton of air in there, add fluid if needed, again measured amount. NOw when you think it is down, drain it all out you are going to have to pressurize it a bit to get it all out, see how much you have. If a ton is gone than you have a loss. No way though if it was 22 psi and no air leak.

FYI: Air leaks where water won't. Water equals bigger molecules. :huglove:

 

OK, I think I know how to solve this inter-cooler leak on a Corvette. Take a look at what Mr. Mechanic has to say and demonstrate. I think this will work!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9sziT6xHM

 

I was being sarcastic. That was one of the problems with the low hood vette, so the solution is what you saw. The filler is ok not to be completely full when the water is cool, plus small air bubbles will not hurt the IATs, hell it was tons better intercooler vs. the saleen, that had way more bubbles. We hooked up a clear flow meter to compare.

Also if you look at some other vette systems, they have a reservoir where the battery is and that is low.

 

"lurker", please show your true self, as there is no reason for you to hide, I guess. This does sound like Carlos, as he uses the same writting style. It definitely is not John Spruil or Billy Tally, unless they are purposely writting this way. You seem to think that you know a lot about me, so PM me where you obtained such information. I will post details about how how Techco "screwed" me. In retrospect, if you are good in math, this may lead me to think that you are Russ?

According to Cam, the system takes around 1 gallon. When my car was being tuned and dynoed, since Techo's tune had a lot to be desired, as we all know, the IAT's were climbing very high, according to my tuner, and the runs were very inconsistent with one another, with a large variation. My tuner then checked the intercooler reservoir (and the car was still hot, but not enough for it to overflow), and we found it to be low, so it was then that we started to suspect about the possibility of a leak.

 

james, it sound to me that you signed up to be a test car to get a blower at a reduced price, then you contacted your credit card company to disput the bill to get your money back. so basicly you stole your supercharger. there are just some people who do not have enough car knowledge to have certain mods or be product testers and i think you fall into this group. the best advise i can give you is to have the unit removed and sell it to someone who can make it work. as a test vehicle you should know that the hp claims don't get there on the first couple of go rounds. as far as a carb number, they do not come over night and that's the way it is (i have been waiting for mine to come for my vortech of 18 months). it seems to me that you are just out to use people for your benefit and i am sure that cam has done everything he can to repair any problem you think you might have.

 

Mole, that is incorrect. The ONLY reason why I decided to let Techco install a supercharger on my car, is because they agreed upon in writting to honor my GM powertrain warranty (from the date and mileage of installation of the supercharger) until 2012, or 42,XXX miles (they actually agreed to extend it a little mileage wise), much like Callaway or Lingenfelter does for their customers. Techco failed and infringed upon their promisses to me, and what was outlined in the scope of work. First they mentioned that they would return my car in 3 weeks, but it took them 6 weeks, after so many lies, that they could no longer keep them straight. They were extremely disorganized, and that place basically ran itself, worst than a circus. When they delivered the car, and I was driving home, unbenounced to me, oil was leaking the entire way home, from a defective O ring that they installed to relocate the oil cooler, the check engine light came on with several trouble codes, and the air conditioning was inoperable, and I found this out at 117 degrees. When my car was baselined, Billy Tally told me that I should have no problems with reaching 550 RWHP SAE, and the numbers were much lower than that. They told me that the system was already developed, and was not a prototype and was final, and that they were looking for a few cars to write out the instructions and feauture on a magazine. They told me that upon installation of the system, I would receive a CARB number and sticker to be emmissions compliant (this was very important to me), which never happened. I have had to spend thousands of dollars to get my car retuned (KR and pinging), resolve issues with the system, and most importantly, my powertrain warranty is obviously not honored by GM, due to the supercharger installation, so most anything that I have to do now, is customer pay. Do you know how much parts and labor cost for any powertrain related issues for a Corvette? Techco had also corrupted my PCM, and I come to find out now that it is possibly corrupted again. Since their warranty was directly through them, and not a 3rd party, it is null and voided, plain and simple. What happens if my engine blows? I have to pay for it, or basically any related issues, such as the ones that I have already had to pay for Cam, tuning, replacing parts that are now not covered under warranty. Except for my dealer, ALL of these other places are out of town, so I have to miss work, pay for food, lodging and gas as well. All of this has already costed me thousands of dollars, as a direct result of what Techco did or did not do, and no warranty. In fact, my car is at the dealership now, and it looks like it will need yet another PCM, after they replaced a water pump gasket. They even found a whole in the molding of the CAI that Techco had not sealed properly. Techco also scratched the underside of my front bumper. This is basically the same as if you bought a new vehicle, the company went belly up, and now you have no warranty. Well, this is exactly the situation that I am in. Each passing day, I discover more and more that was performed incorrectly by Techco. Search the Orange County Superior Court website, and you will find how many law suits have been filed against Techo DBA Eagle Ridge Manufacturing, and Wayne Grafton. Heck, it even appears that their OWN lawyers are suing them. They were basically a fly by night operation. The first suit was filed in 02/09, and it went from there. They knew that they were going belly up for some time, before it actually happend.

 

my balls itch...can you get those for me? LOL

 

ok, so you know that there is no more Techco, which means you know that you no longer have a warranty, and you have absolutely no clue how a motor works...

Why are you still moaning about the No Warranty issue? Nothing anyone can do for you about that, so please, for the love of god, STOP belly aching about it.

Several members (and highly regarded members at that) have given you "Excellent" advice. Take the blower off! Obviously you will save money if you do.

Let me tell you James, buying a part for a Corvette is CHEAP compared to the LX platform. This I promise you. Furthermore, you being out a few thousand is nickel and dime compared to a few of us on this forum. Try 10 - 20K. Do you hear us belly aching? Nope. Why? Because we knew FULL WELL the consequences of what may or may not happen when adding a huge power adder to our stock (or even built) motor's.

I have said this time and again, "When does the owner take responsibility for going above and beyond what the OEM motor is capable of handling?"

Even though the blower was not a proto type doesn't mean that it was tested on your platform car. That is EXACTLY what Techco needed you and couple others for.

6 weeks? WOW, you should be happy. My car was suppose to be there for 30 days. Guess what, I got it back 4 months (to the day) later. Granted, they had to pay for a new motor, but still, my engine builder (name left out intentionally) had my motor built in less than 10 days. We had to fight Techco for nearly 3 months on red tape B.S.

The point is, "Know what you are getting yourself into. Especially if you lack any kind of knowledge on how a motor works.

Now, I am curious as to what your Dealer told you about the missing 2 ounces of water??? Come on James, fill us all in. The way you are ranting (over spilled milk, er water) about this supposed leak, and your ranting about taking your car to the Dealer and to Whipple, surely you have been to one of these places by now???

Inquiring minds want to know...

damn Steve, I didn't know you had balls? I will gladly scratch them for you.

Hope Jesse doesn't mind. hahaha

 

**In my best Charlie Brown Teacher's voice**

Whah whah whah whah whah.

 

James.. sitting in the back ground reading this is very sad.. but pls do not go and try to bash the hand that went to help you when Techco threw you under the bus.. along with many others.. after all it does not appear that many of the peeps on the bow tie sites came running to assist a fellow Corvette owner either..

Ron in some ways is a testament to what can go wrong.. he has been burned more than once on SC projects and it is well documented ..but Ron (and others like him, Cam being another) have contributed a tremendous amount of knowledge and experience lot to us here and other LX/SRT sites..

to put it bluntly i think Ron has gone through enough engines to go with all the cars in my garage and drive way (4 car garage by the way and I have to still park two outside none of them are tractors either)

You got taken by the snake oils salesman and their spoken and written words hold no value. You may have legal recourse... by the sounds of it I guess you better get in line as it appears to be pretty long already and getting longer...

now you may want to take the blower off and sell it some place else.. or you could try and sell the car as "one of" and have someone with stars in their eyes take it off your hands.. or spend some money and/or time to get the car back to stock.. live and learn for the next one.. and yes we all hate to admit it.. but when you try to make your running gear more efficient, powerful and quicker.. some times you go boom..

Cam may not have gotten you to the point you think you should be at.. but what were your other options?

again sorry for your troubles.. but everyone here has tried to help you.. a small thank you should be your next comment

best of luck to you..

 

Thank you Ken. I have thanked members here on numerous occassions, and please read at the bottom of post 145, as I again gave a thank you. Ron, you are correct, I know how all works in theory, but never had experience in working on motors myself. Again, I REPEAT, this is the SOLE reason why I went with TECHCO. I knew the what could happen with modifying a motor, but I thought that I was NOT at risk, because they agreed to provide me with a powertrain warranty to cover any failures, so I thought that I had nothing to lose, basically no risk at all. I figured, if something happens, they have already agreed to fix it, free of charge, for any powertrain related issues. Little did I know, or it did not cross my mind that they were going out of business. I hope that I am making myself clear, and please we are all mature adults, so there is no further reasons for you to call me an idiot or take low shots at me, as I have not done the same to you. Can we agree on that at least? Againk you were all love and kisses with me, until post 145, just because I posted some facts and discoveries, and MY personal opinion, which we are all entitled to, correct?

 

well first off i can not believe they offered you a warranty because you would be the only one to my knowledge. they might have told you 3 weeks to do your install but anyone with common sence would know and accept the fact that thing always take longer then planed, that's just the way it is. if they told you the kit had already been tested and was finished do you know how many other corvettes were already running it, did you do any reasch into them before just leaving your car. if you think the carb number cert is important to you wait til you get pulled of, the popo will tell you how important it is. lol, already been down that road. if you are paying thousands of dollars for a tune you are an idot, tunng a blown car is expensive but not thousands, stop walking into places wearing a shirt that say "i don't know anything about car so take my money". spending money on your car is a choice you made when you decided to modify your car and you need to accept the resoponcablity for that (btw you can not count food as an extra expence, you would eat nomatter where you are at). how did techco corrupt your pmc, by reprograming it? also i know about all the lawsuits (although not a techco supercharger customer myself) i did spend lots of time there and saw alot of what was going down.

and don't belittle people here by claiming that corvette parts are more expensive. people how modify mopars spend large amounts of money to modify there cars and without as many aftermarket for parts there is no pricing wars. i have a pile of bills that i am sure would make your head spend.

 

Hey maybe this is his his car that is modded and doesn't know any better...
Plus if it is his first one, why would Techco give you such a good deal on there product? Since you wouldn't know how to repost back to them about what is good or bad about it.

If this isn't your first modded car...

Then you should know better that a R&D car NEVER is done on time or is perfect....

 

Ralph, you are not reading my posts entirely or not understanding them. I have a signed scope of work with my signature, date, and Carlos Duran from Techco as well. I also have e-mails confirming the warranty as well. I did a lot of research, before pulling the trigger. They had finished installing the kit on their R&D car. Their operation seemed solid, a 3-liter twin screw blower that fits under the stock hood, 8-rib set-up, a warranty, what was not to like? I did not pay thousands for a tune, but have spent thousands with all related issues, again, read my post. How am I belitling anyone here, by saying that parts for Corvettes are costly? They corrupted my PCM by their own admittance, and it was most likely caused by Diablo, and this is a common fact.

 

James,

You should probably go back and read YOUR post 177. This is where YOU crossed the line and began your first attack on me, and more attacks towards Cam...

YOU not listening to Cam's instructions, doing things on your own (especially since you know nothing about cars) after many here have tried to tell you to listen to Cam's instructions is what makes you an idiot. You did this to yourself long before I pointed out the obvious.

Be glad I "Only" called you an idiot after your post 177 because I had, at one point, three full paragraphs for you. Then I realized a phrase someone once told me, "Never argue with an idiot, they will only beat you down with experience". You beat me down, James.

Would you rather have had me ask you to answer the question in my signature?

 

I know quite well about supercharged vehicles, and have modified many of them. I had an 01 Lightning, 03 Cobra, 04 Cobra, among many other performance cars, and two Corvettes, but this is my first supercharged Corvette. Again, as I have said NUMEROUS times, even if there were isssues, they GAVE ME A POWERTRAIN WARRANTY IN WRITTING. What would I have to lose if something were to happen, if they would cover it? Them going out of business, of course.

 

Hello Pot, this is the Kettle....

James, you have no room to accuse someone of not reading your post or not understanding them. You sir, are the epitome of not reading or understanding.