Magnacharger (Roots) Supercharger Coming Soon - Pics Inside!

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  1. Speedlogix

    Speedlogix BMC is now Speedlogix

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    We are excited to show you the first pics of the completed Magnacharger system, which will be ready to ship in approximately 6 weeks. We don't have pricing yet, but the supercharger will be available in black or polished (shown), and the system will include a Predator with tuning and be a complete kit out of the box!

    Here are some pics ...

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    If you are interested in more information on the new Magnacharger system, please post here or PM me as we are compiling a list of interested members. We will continue to post information as it becomes available as well.

    Thanks,
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    cmn1 SRT and SVT

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    Will there be a Jeep kit?
     
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    A little info and background on Magnusson and MagnaCharger!


    I’m Jerry Magnuson. I Build Superchargers! My Magna Charger Superchargers are 5th GEN “Hybrid” roots style, “intercooled” forced induction systems-designed to provide more horsepower per pound of boost than any other system on the market today.
    Depending on the application , I expect these systems to deliver substantial increase in real world...”Under the Curve” power and torque; the emphasis being on reliability and engine longevity.

    Magna Charger systems are developed virtually from the heads up. They feature my patented equal-length intake runners, isolated aluminum manifold plenum and supercharger drive assemblies. The proven reliability of this combination, combined with our performance driven Magnuson engineering experience has created a supercharger with incredible responsiveness and unsurpassed drivability.

    The roots type blower rotors are twisted 60º to form a helix. The two counter rotating rotors have 3 lobes, which inter mesh during operation. Our new sixth generation superchargers feature a 4-lobe 160º twisted helix configuration. This arrangement improves the adiabatic efficiency over traditional roots superchargers and gives instant throttle response.
    Magnuson Products, Inc. promotes and distributes hybrid roots type superchargers to the automotive aftermarket industry in North America.
    Magnuson’s R&D Team combines more than 60 years of system designing experience with state-of-the-art engineering and the latest in computer design and fabrication technology. Magnuson Products, Inc. is capable of developing a complete supercharger system and taking it through every facet of design, fabrication, testing and production. The president, Jerry Magnuson, brings 30 years of supercharging experience to these ventures. He has assembled a staff of professional designers and technicians to propel supercharging into the 21st century.
    Magnuson Products, Inc. is a proud member of SEMA, MPMC and attends major automotive industry shows throughout North America.


    Magna Charger’s new MP 2300 supercharger technology is the same used for the new ZR1 Corvette. The four-lobe rotor features a high-twist 160º helix that has improved efficiency (less power to drive), cooler discharge temperatures and is much quieter. Additional efficiency is the result of the unique bypass valve that reduces parasitic drag during normal driving.
     
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    HEMI911 Platinum Supporting Member

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    Awesome, I have always been a fan of Magnacharger, have one on my F-150. Will there be any allowances for Techco trade-ins ?
     
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    I was wondering how long before that ? was asked!
     
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    1fastsedan Destroyer of Warranties

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    The paragraph says intercooled, but its hard to tell in the pics. Is it intercooled?
     
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    Will these be coming out of the gate with a CARB EO number?
     
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    Speedlogix BMC is now Speedlogix

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    I will find out an answer to that!

    Yes!
     
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    Here is a pic of the G8 kit which is currently on the market and a similar setup...you can see the heat exhanger, as the other parts of the system, the intercooler is integrated into the manifold. These MagnaChargers are very popular for the GTO, G8, and new Camaro.

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    Goats God of skittles

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    soooo the pully shaft goes through the intake plem?
     
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    Speedlogix BMC is now Speedlogix

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    LonghornSpencer Hook 'Em

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    Sounds good for sure...well are the Jeep kits going to be longer than 6 weeks out or about the same?
     
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    Well spencer with your latest mod you should be able to handle the power with a built 426 and built transmission I dont see why not huh-LOL Plus a certain tuner we know should know the ins and outs of the Magna Charger pretty well.
     
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    Great looking unit, I want F/I but looking into a 426 at the moment, maybe after that!
     
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    No just stroke what you have to a 392 then slap the blower on and call it a day:D
     
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    Well?:yawn: :redx: :tomato:
     
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    Speedlogix BMC is now Speedlogix

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    I just got an update from Magnacharger and they are still finalizing the HP/TQ and boost numbers so it should just be a couple more days. :)
     
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    sgtstanko Want to go FASTER!!!

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    On the Jeep site it was revealed in about 8 weeks a version for the Jeep will be offered.


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    Here is some more good info from Magnusson regarding the Magnacharger, General Q&A and Superchargers in general!



    How does an Magnuson supercharger work?

    A supercharger is a positive displacement pump. Its purpose is to increase air pressure and density in the intake manifold. It does this by pumping more air than the engine would use without a supercharger. The supercharger is matched to the engine by its displacement and belt ratio, and can provide excess airflow at any engine speed. This concentrated charge of air provided by the supercharger results in a more powerful combustion stroke in the engine's cylinders, resulting in improved performance over non-supercharged vehicles.

    The roots supercharger has been around for a long time, how is the Magnuson supercharger different?

    The Magnuson supercharger is essentially a Roots blower pump, with one substantial design wrinkle; each rotor has been twisted 60 degrees to form a helix. The two counter rotating rotors have three lobes, which intermesh during operation. These twisted rotors, along with specially designed inlet and outlet port geometry, help to reduce pressure variations resulting in a smooth discharge of air and a low level of noise during operation. This arrangement also improves efficiency over traditional Roots superchargers. With helical rotors and an axial inlet the Magnuson supercharger can be spun to up to 14,000 rpm, thereby reducing package size.

    How is a Magnuson supercharger different from a turbocharger?


    A supercharger is connected directly to the crankshaft by a belt unlike a turbocharger which is driven by exhaust gases. An Eaton supercharger provides improved horsepower and torque, at lower engine rpm's, by pumping extra air into the engine in direct relationship to crankshaft speed. The positive connection yields instant response, in contrast to turbochargers, which must overcome inertia and spin up to speed as the flow of exhaust gas increases. The supercharger is a way to get around "turbo lag". The lubrication system also differs, in that, the supercharger is self-contained whereas the turbocharger requires engine oil.

    How long has Magnuson been manufacturing superchargers?

    For over 39 years.

    What are the benefits of the Magnuson supercharger?

    1) Patented technology to reduce noise, 2) Proven manufacturing capability, 3) Packaging flexibility, i.e. reduced package size, 4) Self-contained lubrication, i.e. no external oil connections to the engine, 5) Bypass system used for unloading supercharger during idle and light load, resulting in better fuel economy and quiet operation, 6) Competitive pricing.

    Are Magnuson superchargers noisy?

    The Magnuson supercharger system incorporates a specially designed bypass valve, which is actuated by a vacuum motor near the throttle body, and re-circulates the supercharger air flow when boost is not required. During typical driving conditions, the engine is under boost around 5% of the time, which means the remaining 95% of the time the engine is under vacuum, allowing for better fuel economy and a quieter ride. In addition, the helix angled rotors, along with specially designed inlet and outlet port geometry, also reduce pressure variations resulting in a smooth discharge flow and a lower level of noise during operation. The associated ducting and mounting used in installing the supercharger can play a major role in reducing the noise emitted by the supercharger.

    Is a Magnuson supercharger reliable?

    The reliability of the Magnuson supercharger was the first criteria, which was addressed during early design development of the supercharger. Dedicated engineers with backgrounds in compressors, gearing, tribology and metallurgy, as well as thermal and structural analysis enabled Magnuson to find solutions to many reliability concerns. In addition, strict customer durability test criteria have been achieved. Successful completion of numerous 500 hour durability tests established a firm grasp on achieving a reliable product. In addition, numerous vehicles have successfully completed 100,000 mile, OEM (original equipment manufacturer), vehicle durability tests. Improvements in bearing and seal designs also aided in a product which meets all OEM durability criteria.

    Is the performance benefit offset by the cost associated with a Magnuson supercharger?

    In comparing a supercharged 3.8 liter, 2-valve/cylinder V6 engine with a non-supercharged 4.0 liter, 4-valve/cylinder V8, the supercharged vehicle will provide better power [torque], and at a lower overall cost, than the non-supercharged vehicle. This is due to complexity and tooling associated with the more complex 4-valve/cylinder engine.

    What about fuel economy and flexible fuels?

    Supercharging is compatible with all types of fuels including flexible fuels, i.e. CNG (compressed natural gas), propane, etc. Fuel economy is not compromised, as described above in item #7, when utilizing the bypass system in conjunction with the supercharger. EPA (environmental protection agency) figures support this claim. A typical domestic vehicle equipped with a Magnuson supercharger shows no fuel economy penalty for highway driving, and only a one mile per gallon penalty for city driving.

    How does Magnuson view supercharging for the future?

    With the continued interest in performance, and the desire to maintain fuel economy, supercharging could be the ideal product of the future. Using a Magnuson supercharger to increase power on a smaller displacement engine, in turn achieving the performance of a larger engine, but not compromising fuel economy seems too good to be true--but that is what a Magnuson supercharger provides.

    Is the supercharger available for aftermarket applications?

    The majority of Magnuson supercharger applications have been designed for specific OEM applications. This is due to the fact that each engine application has unique hardware installation requirements and the design criteria of the supercharger is matched to the specific engine. Recent interest has, however, been shown in this market and has resulted in aftermarket applications being sourced through Magnuson Products, Inc.

    What can a supercharger do for my car or truck?

    A supercharger is basically an air pump. There are three requirements for combustion: Fuel, Oxygen, and Heat Source. A normally aspirated engine relies on atmospheric pressure, the action of the piston drawing air into the combustion chamber, mixing with the gas, and the spark of the plug igniting that mixture. This process does not get the most from the engines potential and this is where a supercharger comes in. By compressing more air into the combustion chamber, the fuel has more oxygen to react with, is more efficiently consumed, and results in a more powerful explosion pushing the piston down with more force. Thus, a supercharger can add substantial torque and horsepower to your vehicle. At the lower RPM’s the torque gains can be dramatic. We often see rear wheel torque in the range of 400 ft-lbs at slightly over 2000 RPM. For the owner of a truck that may weigh in excess of 5000 lbs, this is what will get the truck moving very quickly when compared to a naturally aspirated engine. A result is greater towing capacity, the ability to pull heavy loads up a long grade with far greater ease. Most driving is done between idle and 4500 RPM, and this the band wherein the torque is most felt. Let’s hook up that boat now and hit the lake!

    Will installing a supercharger void my warranty?

    It just might...but not legally! This is best discussed with the service manager or service writer at the dealership where you purchased your ride. The Magnuson Moss Warranty Act (US Code-Title 15, Chapter 50, Sections 2301-2312) states that the dealership cannot void the warranty on a vehicle due to an aftermarket part unless they can prove that the aftermarket part caused or contributed to failure in the vehicle. For best results, try working with performance oriented dealerships. Magnuson Products offers a limited extended 3-year 36,000-mile warranty for $200.00 that helps with potential problems with the dealership for additional peace of mind.

    Will a supercharger kill my fuel economy?

    That depends on how you drive. Many customers see an increase in their fuel economy with the supercharger. With the Radix system for example, a 2 to 3 m.p.g. increase is not unusual. The supercharger actually reduces the pumping loss of the engine. This loss is vacuum force required to actually pull the air/fuel into the cylinder. The supercharger equalizes all the cylinders and actually helps to 'push' the piston down to the bottom of the intake stroke, increasing engine efficiency. The problem with most owners of supercharged vehicles is that the "fun factor" goes through the roof, and it's hard to keep your foot off the mat!


    Can I run an aftermarket cam with your supercharger?

    Aftermarket parts such as headers, cams, heads, etc. should be used cautiously. If you’re looking to squeeze high horsepower numbers out of your motor a selection of bolt-on’s can really tweak your motor up to it’s full potential. Most of the time however, a new tune will be required for the vehicle. To answer your question, yes, you can run an aftermarket cam.

    Can I run nitrous with your supercharger?

    If so, is there a kit you recommend? There are a lot of people running nitrous through our blower with no ill effects. The problem you will run into is two fold. First, because there is almost no way to run the nitrous after the blower, all kits are run before the blower and through the rotors. Over time, this can erode the coating off of the rotors and clog your intercooler. Second, with the increased cylinder pressures and additional fuel and tuning need, you run the risk of actually cracking the top manifold of the blower. Neither situation will be covered under warranty.

    Is there any maintenance required with my kit?

    Do I need to change the oil in it? A big advantage of our kits is the lack of any scheduled maintenance. The only item to keep an eye on is the drive belt. Just as any drive belt, if it shows any signs of wear, immediately replace it. The nose oil, however, has a service life of 80,000 miles.

    General Info:
    Normal sea-level atmospheric pressure runs about 14.7 P.S.I. The laws of physics state that if you double that atmospheric pressure you will double your horsepower. In practice, however, there are variables. Number one, engines in practice realize approximately 80% volumetric efficiency. That means that if you were in a cylinder of a standard engine you would be receiving only 80% of your available air pressure on intake. Allowing for that one variable alone brings you the fact that it would take closer to about 17 pounds of boost to bring your engine up to double horsepower. You realize about 20% gain in horsepower just by getting full atmospheric pressure inside your cylinders. After that comes the boost above the pressure generated by the column of air over your head (or in this case your engine). All superchargers are basically air pumps, forcing more air into your cylinders than what is generated by the vacuum created when the crankshaft draws down a piston. You can expect to gain about 20 horses per pound of boost in practice, or around 125 horsepower and about 125 ft-lbs of torque increase with a Magna Charger supercharger kit.

    Most Magna Charger supercharger kits are available with intercoolers. An intercooler reduces the discharge temperature of the compressed air from the supercharger. Physics, in this case Boyles Law, states that when air is compressed it gets hotter. A rule of thumb is that for every 10 degrees that you can reduce the temperature, a 1% power increase can be gained. Even more efficiency is available!

    When looking at buying a supercharger, don’t make the mistake of being concerned only with peak horsepower numbers. People drive so infrequently at the peak power range, that it is pretty much an insignificant number. Magna Charger supercharger systems demonstrate a remarkably fl at torque curve, meaning that your power to the wheels is demonstrable throughout the power range. This is particularly enticing when you find yourself pulling a boat to the lake, or hauling your friends up a steep grade. You should be concerned with the quality of the system, inspect the quality of the machined surfaces, spend some time on forums, hear what people say that own the systems. The Magna Charger kits come complete with all necessary components. There's no need to be a welder or fabricator. We offer the perfect balance of high end horsepower and low speed torque, the best of both worlds for the ultimate in high performance street ability. DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
     
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