Stage 3 only holds 14 psi at redline, need help

Discussion in 'Engine & Performance Modifications' started by 7055, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. Goats

    Goats God of skittles

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    Just get a 50 trim cause u don't have to worry about spiking and holding it just holds what ever you set it to
     
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    Tah he he he. Or he could get a external gate on the S# fold with the flapper welded shut.

    When you are running an internal gate setup its going to lose boost to redline. I would be very happy holding 18 to redline knowing stock turbo holds around 11 or so to redline with stock WGA of course.
     
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    I'm not content with paying full price for half a cup of coffee
     
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    There's really nothing to it. There's only so much it could be.

    The problem lies when people to start slapping mods and messing with multiple things making the problems worse and hard to pin point the actual source of the problem.

    I'd like to know how you ruled out the AGP wga.

    Did you install this kit yourself?

    Boost leak test the car again... up to 25psi.

    Any exhaust leaks?

    Did you give the pcm time to learn the wga? Did you reset the pcm when you changed wga's?

    How many times have you reset the pcm since you started having problems with boost?

    Turbo have any shaft play?

    Is the wga flapper fully shut with the wga on it?
     
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    I installed it myself, I talked about how I ruled out the WGA in the first post. I've changed WGAs back and forth with and without reseting the PCM multiple times. Flapper is fully shut, Don't know about the turbo shaft play or exhaust leaks

    I'll take it off PCM control and if I still have the same problem then I'll know it's something not PCM related. If it goes away then I'll know it's not the turbo or an exhaust leak or anything like that.
     
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    Big question... What blow off valve are you running.. If its the stock surge valve or the stock surge valve with the Mopar plate thats a good canidate as what the problem is... Since it doesn't like to hold boost well.
     
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    Stock surge valve
     
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    you should def do the external wga. look at pt-performance. they have s3 mani with it already to go for like $200. I think you will like it better.
     
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    Yeah I should, don't have the money for it now though.
     
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    I should probably update this thread since there seems to be some confusion on the Forums. I've since taken it off PCM control and it seems to have solved the problem.
     
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    so how much psi you running and how much does it hold??????? Curious cause mine drops off to...
     
  12. srt4evah

    srt4evah Raw Meat

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    Funny, I had a similar problem with PCM controlled boost on my S3. It would only boost 16psi, max, all the time. When I'd reset the PCM, it would hit 23psi for a few moments, then immediately and permanently pull back to 16psi. I boost leak tested it, changed the plugs, blah blah did everything I could imagine, adjusted the AGP S3 WGA, replaced ALL vac lines, replaced the solenoid, and on and on.

    Final solution: Turbosmart MBC

    Now it hits 25psi and holds about 20-21psi at redline, consistently. No idea what went flakey with the PCM controlled boost...
     
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    22/18 maybe on pump, still can't figure out how some are capable of 25 falling to 23/22
     
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    Possibility of the DAB feature no longer working or working improperly.

    Especially since you say it was only boosting 16psi. Which 16-18psi = DAB 0 on a AGP wga on PCM controlled boost. So if it stayed there in the other DAB settings then the fuse could have blown or the DAB switch/knob/dial itself went bad or some other part/function in the DAB feature.

    Going to an MBC and being able to raise boost just gives it away that it was something to do with DAB or a problem with it.
     
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    srt4evah Raw Meat

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    Yah, I'll have to check the fuses out when I get my car back, it's getting the tranny rebuilt right now. It would be nice to have DAB back again, especially cuz 25psi in 1st/2nd gear is useless.
     
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    That with the PTP WGA off PCM control?