water meth

Discussion in 'Engine & Performance Modifications' started by 8yourM5, Feb 5, 2009.

  1. 8yourM5

    8yourM5 Full Access Member

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    I just bought a stage 2 snow kit. How much hp and tq am I looking at picking up? thanks guys
     
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    1fastsedan Destroyer of Warranties

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    Very little if you don't change your tune to take full advantage of it. You bought piston safety and a cooler intake charge (that's where the little gain comes from) if you don't increase the timing to take advantage.
     
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    MOL SHOW & PERFORMANCE

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    ^^^ nail on the head^^^
     
  4. HalV48

    HalV48 They Call Me Patron

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    kind of like cheap race gas.
     
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    Stretch Silver Supporting Members

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    What did it run you? Is it a trunk mount tank or are you using something under the hood?
     
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    paid about 450 for a stage 2 snow kit with a 2 gallon tank. So I understand that I will pick up power from the cooler charger and I will gain power from being able to use more timing. but how much power?

    Snow has on their website that a cobra picked up 100wrhp I HIGHLY doubt it but it woud be cool. I am hoping to see 20-30hp is that asking to much?
     
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    sdcarguy A bit off

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    I saw 10 hp and 20 tq when partially tuned for it on the vortech. With the techco it was about 20/20
     
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    So with a spot on dead tune I might see 25?
     
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    sdcarguy A bit off

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    there is no set number you will gain. It is depends on to many factors. Look at it this way you are effectively getting more octane and cooler temps even if you dont get any power. You might see a little or a lot only time will tell....sorry I cant give you a number as i know thats what your looking for but its all speculation.
     
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    I am more stoked about haveing race gas for much cheaper than the hp gains I just didn't know if it was a set number. Thanks guys
     
  11. Redfox0099

    Redfox0099 NASCAR Tech Student

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    Wow..$450 :hypno: Should of talked to.... me
     
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    Well I have been using a Labonte kit that I got from U know who..(REDFOX099). I am N/A but I have a race tune which I utilize the Water\Meth kit for advance timing. It took alot of tweaking for me to get it working just right and I am still working on some adjustments.
    I have a on and off switch under the hood which I flip on at the track. I will be moving that on and off switch internally next to my shifter. I have found that I tend to bog during burnouts becuase I keep the rev at 3-5K RPM range which is the start of the progessive spraying. Also I have found that above 2K RPM when I brake torque I tend to bog off launch because I am flashing so quick. I will be keeping the meth controller on off....until I have launched and then flip it on... kinda like spraying with N02
     
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    I am happy with the price and I know if any thing goes wrong andy will be there nor
    Me. Not saying u wouldn't. I just really like to support PPP. They always take are of me.
     
  14. Redfox0099

    Redfox0099 NASCAR Tech Student

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    .....Why can't I quit you 8yourM5????? :)


    Ask the people who I have walked installs through on the phone or at the track, I take care of my customers.
     
  15. SweetRide

    SweetRide U can call me Johanness

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    This may have been covered b4, but I'm thinking about the above system as well. I've ran water/meth on my 73 Volvo 142 with it's massive turbo/low comp motor, and I'm a believer.
    Now with my SRT8 being N/A, from what i've read it's still a good idea. But I'm planning on buying a ZEX kit as well. Are there any ramifications to running both systems? (100 shot w-water/meth) Is it recommended? y/n?
     
  16. SweetRide

    SweetRide U can call me Johanness

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    bump

    anyone?
     
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    Nathan man I got mad love for ya and ur company. And alot for ur car. I just go to andy for everything. I did send u a pm a while back about a cluster? And I have heard great things about you. To bad we are not going to be parked together again at this years spring fling
     
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    Nathan man I got mad love for ya and ur company. And alot for ur car. I just go to andy for everything. I did send u a pm a while back about a cluster? And I have heard great things about you. To bad we are not going to be parked together again at this years spring fling
     
  19. NorCalSRT-8

    NorCalSRT-8 Performance Consultant

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    I hear old Johnny Boy (8yourM5) put down some good numbers today. I will let him post em up. Congrats John! :beerchug:
     
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    I made 663/639 to day the water meth helpped alot! I was running out of fuel at 7psi. Now with the meth I have fuel to spay