E1 turbo. (I know its not a big turbo)

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  1. StillANeon

    StillANeon Full Access Member

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    Whats everyones opinions on these turbo's? I here good numbers and good reviews on them.

    I saw one for sale for $600 that was pretty much brand new with warranty. For just the turbo. Would I need a bigger exhaust manifold to get the full potency out of this turbo? Or could I just use my stocker? I am really looking into getting a ported stock turbo and the E1 has always grabbed my attention. Any feedback would be great.

    Thank You.
     
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    Cygnus Platinum Supporting Member

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    E1's are nice turbo's. The problem with FM with their modified stockers is they give you a hard time when a turbo fails and you want their "warranty" to cover for it. They try to blame the user/buyer on improper install this and that... thats why it failed and they will not cover it.

    When i was looking into getting a modified stocker I was going to with...
    http://www.extremeturboshop.com/Neon-SRT4.html

    ETS makes the turbo's for PTP. I've talked to the owner of ETS and here's some proof:
    http://www.extremeturboshop.com/TurboUpgrade.html
     
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    Thanks for the links. Seems like a little better deal. You have to provide a core, shipping back and forth though. Might add up. The E1 turbos seem to do better than the PTP ones. Not sure about reliability. Would not be fun if you paid $600+ on a turbo and it failed not due to your fault.

    I will look into local places around here that might do turbos..
     
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    Vipz Attack the 'Ring

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    I have an ETS turbo and I like it. PTP tends to go overkill with their wheels, but just tell ETS you want a smaller like 16g6 wheel or something if you are going that route.
     
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    I am looking for around 350whp
     
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    Vipz Attack the 'Ring

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    You will probably want race gas for that. The only 350whp big wheel stock turbo car I know of had 26psi with meth and every supporting mod you can get. There might be a few more but it's very uncommon of course unless you are on race gas and then it's "do-able"
     
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    When wanting to pull every ouce of hp out of the stocker (or modified stocker) the two people I would talk to are billy (srtdoes12s) and mario (505streetracer). Those two have gotten some damn good results with their setups.
     
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    Will do.

    Currently at 264whp with these mods:


    Stage 1, 3'' 02 housing, Full 3'' Exhaust. Injen 3'' short ram intake. CTI chargepipe Stock WGA, Stock Boost levels

    I have a AGP direct fit, and a friend is piecing together a fuel pump rewire kit. Going on in the spring time.

    I was thinking the ported stocker would help me achieve my 300whp goal quite easily not sure if its the cheapest though. I am a hair under 70k on the car and it would probably be a good idea to put a new turbo in there for maintenance and as an upgrade. :) Wanna keep my car safe for daily driving.

    theres a local who is pushing 336whp, 388ftlbs on stock turbo. Stage 2 setup, Meth, exhaust, high boost levels, and race gas.

    308whp, 345ftlbs on reg gas. low boost

    I will give him a shout out...
     
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    Goats God of skittles

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    To hit 350 on a moded stocker is hard u would need. Raised comp ported head and intake and cams but it would be Easyer with a s3 turbofold
     
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    I would be happy with atleast 315whp. A dude is selling his E1 turbo with 10k on it for $500. Then of course that one with less than 500 mile son it with warranty is $600. I still haven't heard back from the local who made mad power on the stocker.

    I posted in the WTB on srtforums and there is a guy who is selling his S3 setup, waiting on PM response with price.
     
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    Goats God of skittles

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    There's a vendor on the srtforums that are selling new green stage 3 turbofolds meaning alittle more power out of them look in the vendor group buy section for like $1100 well worth the money


    Edit:forced performance is the company
     
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    master_1011 The Man.

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    If you decide to go with the modded stocker route (I did and made 312 FWHP with race gas, but ZERO tune on a PTP SST) you will also want to get a ported manifold too. The stock manifold is too restrictive and gets too hot for the boost numbers you would need to get.

    I still have my ported and ceramic coated manifold. Obviously, I don't need it anymore. It has to broken studs in it which are easily removable, but I have no need to do that either....Yours for 250 + shipping. No core.

    Just a thought.

    And, for the record, the PTP SST, despite all the hate that PTP gets, was very reliable and made good boost numbers even on the S2 WGA, and is still running strong in the car of the gentleman I sold it to.
     
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    What were all the mods you had done for 312whp?

    So that manifold you are selling is a stocker that is just ported and ceramic coated? Who did the work?

    Did you achieve those numbers with that manifold?

    goats,
    checking out that forced performance section.. Thanks for the headsup.

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    Read the entire thread in the vendor gb section. Too much power man. Plus I would have to get probably $2k for supporting mods. Thats way over my head.

    They do retail for $2k though.
     
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    Goats God of skittles

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    yea if they had when i got my 50 trim i would have gotten the S3 instead
     
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    I see no problem with making 315-320 on a ported stocker. You will need the supporting mods to achieve this. My stock turbo, with zero port work made 308/427. ran mid 12's and was super fun to drive compared to my big turbo set up. I also see no problem with making higher numbers with the E1 set up. It is a very strong and reliable turbo. But if you plan on wanting more than 350, your best bet is to go either S3 or 50 trim plus.

    to make 300 fwhp is very easy on the stocker.
     
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    My stocker has 70k miles on it and its probably starting to lose its effiency(sp) Thats why I would like to upgrade. I noticed a tiny bit of shaft play 3-4 months ago when I was doing a boost leak test.

    I probably could get 300whp out of the stocker but thats really pushing it. High EGT's and it will probably be running a bit lean due to the high boost levels.

    I want a reliable 315whp thats not going to be pushing anything too hard.
     
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    The E1 is good for more than 350 WHP, allthough FM will never release the numbers I know for a fact that they dyno'd north of 400WHP with a E1.

    A E1 properly set-up is one of the best all around set-ups for the NSRT. Excellent off the line, plenty responsive, perfect for the street.

    If I pick up another NSRT, I will be going with an E1 for sure.
     
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    They do seem like great turbo's.

    I got another offer from a guy:

    Heres how the conversation went:
    I was very skeptical:
    Him:

    He then responded telling me he could have a friend take pictures.

    what do you guys think?

    I know FBM was scamming people left and right. This dude has a ton of perfect feedback though.
     
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    master_1011 The Man.

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    Sorry for my late reply..... I'm posting solely from my phone right now..

    The manifold I have is a PTP unit. I know he didn't do the work himself.... He's just a salesman. It has been ported and ceramic coated to reduce EGT's, which will kill a ported stocker.

    I made 312 FWHP with an SST, ported mani, maxxfab 3 inch O2, ATP 3in DP, Borla cat-back, Mopar S2 w/toys, AEM CAI, and race gas. That's it. No tuning device at all. 10.0 AFR's.
     
  20. StillANeon

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    Ehhh Race gas.
    I am not sure what I want as of right now.
    I am thinking about big turbo's...
    -A local is parting out his AGP 50 trim..
    -AGP has a $1900 setup on sale for $1250 right now. (Only like 2 left)
    Its jusst the supporting mods that make everything so expensive. I would need bigger injectors like 650's, a tuning device, a new fuel pump, upp with BOV nad a clutch later on.
    Really not set on how much I want to spend. I have a good amount of money, but I would love to have a cushion.