BWoody Performance Charger/300C/Magnum Velocity Plus Short Ram Intake

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ATL-300CSRT8, Oct 19, 2008.

  1. ATL-300CSRT8

    ATL-300CSRT8 New Member

    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    I hope everyone can chime in on this one. I pulled up a quote by someone on the chargerforums.com board and this is what was stated about the new BWOODY VELOCITY PLUS SHORT RAM INTAKE. I sent Mike an email at BWOODY so hopefully he will respond.

    Here is the quote about the product:

    moving the iat isnt a smart idea . the pcm directs fuel based on ambiant air temp. if you put the sensor where it reads 70 degrees but at the throttle it actually has 75 degrees then all you are doing is telling the vehicle to dump more fuel then what it needs, thus wasting gas mileage. You want the right amount of fuel for the right tempature thats at the throttle body. Tricking sensors that are put their to do a job is normally a dumb thing to do. just an opinion.

    Does anyone have any thoughts on this.............. due to I would like to order this product. Is this something that will do harm to the engine ? Need all opinions !!!
     
  2. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

    Messages:
    10,483
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2007
    Location:
    orlando
    if i am not mistaken, the ait sensor also will effect timing as well. if ait reads colder air, the pcm thus increases fuel richment and adjusts timing accordingly. the idea is to make the pcm think the car is cooler than it actually is. take into consideration also running a cooler t-stat so operating temps are also lower than "normal" so the pcm does not have conflicting info. i am not an expert on this, but i am pretty sure this is the leighmans way it works. so no, not necessarily a bad thing at all of you have all the other parameters in order.
     
  3. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

    Messages:
    1,790
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2007
    Location:
    Corona, CA
    The IAT does effect timing!..
    I never understood why people were moving the IAT. I would want my PCM to know the actual temp of the air entering the throttle body.
    The object here is to HAVE colder air NOT LIE about it.

    I mean if you want your IAT to be cooler because you THINK it is going to help then move it into the passenger compartment. Or I am sure you can probably trick the IAT into always saying a certain temp like 80 F, with a few resistors. It appears that the IAT is an "RTD" (Resistance Temperature Detector) which calculates temp based on a device that changes resistance based on temp.
     
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2008
  4. SRT8U

    SRT8U Supporting Vendor

    Messages:
    1,726
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2007
    Location:
    S Florida

    +1...IMO make the air cooler, don't trick the computer....Water/Meth will do that nicely!

    I have seen where some intakes move the IAT, so there is probably soemthing to it, but at the day I think cooler air is always better regardless where teh IAT is.
     
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2008
  5. mike@bwoodyperformance

    mike@bwoodyperformance Supporting Vendor

    Messages:
    302
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Funny we moved the Jeeps iat sensor 19 inches down stream and our intake makes more power than anyone elses on the market, also out of all the SRT-8's the Jeep get the worst gas milage and we've had reports back of as much as a 2 mpg gain in fuel economy, The results speak for themselves.
     
  6. 1FST4DR

    1FST4DR Supporting Vendor

    Messages:
    2,051
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Location:
    Ft Laud
    Guys per Johan at Diablo this past friday.The IAT DOES effect timing.SHoot him a message I know he will agree..How do I know this???He saw a steel braided line
    from onr of our catch cans resting against the IAT.He stated you might want to get
    that off of there because the heat from the steel braided line will heat up the IAT
    and the car will pull timing.Just thought I would share.BTW He was also impressed
    with my CAI I just pruchased from Bwoody.He stated that alot had to do with the
    placement of the IATsensor.The only thing he said might help is if it wasnt made out od metal.Just thought I would share..
     
  7. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

    Messages:
    1,790
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2007
    Location:
    Corona, CA
    I believe I have "heard" that it was 1 deg of timing per 10 deg F of IAT. Regretably....I don't remember the base temp. Probably somewhere around 90-100 deg F.