Cheap ass supercharger setup questions.

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  1. 4DRHTRD

    4DRHTRD 6.1L+boost=fun

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    OK so I've started my "cheap ass S/C" setup build and since I have a stock bottom end I'm going to stay with around 5psi of boost with the Novi 1200 unit I'll be using. I've got the SRT-4 stage 1 injectors on their way ($115 shipped WOOT) and I'm wondering if there's a real need for a fuel pump or boost a pump at around 450 WHP?
    I'm going to be upgrading the IC to a front A/A like jected showed in another post but that's about it. I'll reuse the plate, head unit and BOV from the kit.

    BTW, anybody have a base tune they can email me to get this thing running? I'm assuming I can't just add fuel/remove timing with the Predator enough to make it work.

    Also, what is the Mopar 2 bar MAP sensor part # as I'll need that too.
     
  2. 4DRHTRD

    4DRHTRD 6.1L+boost=fun

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    I posted this on the LX forums, maybe I'll have better luck here:
    OK so I have some questions:
    Anybody have the belt # for the GSM S/C kit so I can buy one (maybe NAPA?)
    Can someone post a picture of the belt routing please.


    Thanks!
     
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    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    I sent you a PM on LXF with the 2bar MS part number.

    I can not remember the belt part number, but yes, it comes from Napa. I "Think" it is the 114mm belt.

    The routing of the belt is gonna be easy as you are only adding the blower pulley and the pulley guide...

    I can help you with that when you are ready.

    2 Bar Map Sensor part #: 05033224AB
     
  4. 4DRHTRD

    4DRHTRD 6.1L+boost=fun

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    Thanks man!
    LX forums seem kinda screwed up right now and I'm silly and didn't realize you were a big shot on here. :)
    Thanks and I'll be hitting you up soon!!!
    :)
     
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    JIMS SRT8 New Member

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    i have a new belt for the gsm kit pm me
     
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    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    Sounds perfect Mike.

    I will be waiting. hehe
     
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    4DRHTRD 6.1L+boost=fun

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    OK so here's what I've done so far:
    1. Picked up a used Novi 1200 based GSM kit for $1800 (picking up Sat.)
    2. Bought a set of 8 injectors from the srtforums.com for $115 shipped (SRT-4 guys take these off and upgrade constantly)
    3. Bought the MAP sensor for $10 locally from an SRT-4 guy
    4. Bought a new belt from another member (pending) for $40
    Next parts will be to get everything on the car and have my friend fab up a new IC and piping over the next 2 or 3 weeks and install everything.
    I just need to find an A/A IC core that's around 24x9x3 for the front mount.
     
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    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    Check with Vortechs for the bigger core. They are a Vendor here.

    Also, our friendly Supporting Vendor in Paxton can probably get you some misc stuff.
     
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    4DRHTRD 6.1L+boost=fun

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    Hemi31 [email protected]

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    Get some good fuel rails too.......the billet tech ones are probably the best and do front and rear crossovers......then if needed run a -8 an line from the tank to the rail.
     
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    4DRHTRD 6.1L+boost=fun

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    I don't want to have problems with lack of fuel but is that really necessary for a stock bottom end 5psi S/C setup?
     
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    Stretch Silver Supporting Members

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    We just let him think that once in a while so he gives us free stuff! Good luck on your SC project.
     
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    diegochrysler Jose"GR8CHORIZO"Jalapeno

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    Mike,

    Don't help his already huge "EGO"! He has enough trouble getting his melon in the charger with the window up:bigwink:!

    Ask lots of questions and take your time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't want to Ron your motor (a few times):whistle:
     
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    Hemi31 [email protected]

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    It will make sure you don't see that lean spot on #1 cylinder.
     
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    4DRHTRD 6.1L+boost=fun

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    Who sells these super duper fuel rails?
    :)
     
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    4DRHTRD 6.1L+boost=fun

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    I found this:
    http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/product_p/aei-14146.htm
    http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/product_p/bmcp-mflk-1.htm

    Although cool and neat and could possibly save my motor but that's $390.00...!!!!
    In the long run cheap compared to a new short block but at 5psi of boost isn't it possible that's overkill?
    If all the Vortech/Paxton/Procharger kits out there, how many have not done this and lived?

    Trust me when I throw a low compression bottom end in it and up the boost to 15+ psi I will gladly upgrade the entire fuel system but at this stage I honestly don't think it will require it.
     
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    4DRHTRD 6.1L+boost=fun

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    OK, well my 1st 4 injectors showed up and my new MAP sensor ($14.25) today, 2nd set of injectors should be here by Friday. I was going to pick up the S/C tonight but I had to work tonight/tomorrow night so I'll get it Saturday.
    Need to pick up the Treadstone TR12 IC on the 15th and then drop the car off to get the piping bent/welded then wait for it to get coated then install it. Should be done by end of month/beg of Nov.
    Found a BAP on Amazon.com for $241!!! NEW
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00063033U