alright one last engine management ?/suggestion.

If your really interested, I am willing to sell my S2 w/toys kit...but there won't be an intercooler sprayer....but everything else will be there. MAP/TIP, S2 injectors, PCM and toys bezel.....

 

:supergay:

 

alright, did some searching on the s2 kit. very light research on mopars site..

seems like s2 without toys would make me happy.

is there somewhere i can buy the s2 upgrades without the WGA and get a different one. what would be the main benefits to using a FM WGA or some other WGA over the S2 WGA.

just FYI, im looking for more power but retaining as much drivability and OEM feel at the same time.

i don't feel like dumping tons of money, time, power into the car when its my only vehicle. i made that mistake with my tib and ended up turning it into a pretty un-friendly DD.

 

you REALLY want toys with s2. it's a waste of time and money otherwise.

 

i am interested. is everything in good condition? how much you asking for everything. i might be able to find the IC sprayer seperate.

psichick, waste of time/money for someone that would be racing often or just waste of time/money period.

From what i read the toys consist of the boost switch for high octane mode, which i wouldn't be using. car gets crappy enough mileage as it is.
and the intercooler sprayer which i would rarely use, especially for daily driving.

I am pretty satisfied with the power levels right now and according to the dyno graphs, which look to be conservative, w/ out turbo toys it would be ~260whp/~280ft. lbs.

with my current mods, i would expect to be about 10whp or so over production, which according to the mopar dynos is about ~215whp/~240ft.lbs (production)

so, again with my question, to what type of driver would s2 w/out toys be worth it. I can tell you i won't be taking the car to the track more than once a year and i wont be street racing.

 

s2 w/o toys is only good for the driver that's throwing a big turbo on it.

toys is more than just a ic sprayer and a hom button. it's also go DAB which is really helpful. it can give you better gas mileage by turning down the boost, and give you more traction when needed in setting 2 by limiting boost in 1st and 2nd gear. also, many people have had success holding hom with w/i, so you don't necessarily need race gas to do it. and don't pretend that you don't do a pull every once in a while on the street because i won't believe you lol.

s2 shines at the track from a stop. that's what it's designed for. if you're looking for a highway pull car you either have to go s2 w/toys to take advantage of hom or stick with s1 w/mods.

 

thanks a TON for the info.

i NEVER mash the gas.. :bag: ever.. :tropicalwind:

so, if i was to get the s2 w/toys minus the IC sprayer from master, i should be good.

 

yup you should be good to go. i don't think anyone ever actually uses that ic sprayer lol mine hasn't been on the car in two years or so lol

 

lol.. good deal

thanks for all the help :salut:

guess ill find out how much he wants for the s2 kit and go from there.

 

good luck with it!

 

k:

Sorry...slept in this morning:dance4:

I am looking to sell it for about 750 + shipping. Thats cheaper the the kit w/o toys, but it comes with everything......except the sprayer....

The only thing is, I have to order a new TIP for myself. Not the 3 BAR for the S2, but a stock one to put in it's place. I lost mine.....

 

alright, price sounds good.

can you get me a shipping quote to 87114. just a rough one would be fine.

thanks again.

also, the install of all this stuff. is it all plug in, or wiring and stuff

 

I'll get you a quote soon, but for the most part it's plug and play. The MAP/TIP are direct replacements, as are the injectors, WGA, and PCM.

The only wiring is for the toys.

 

Also, you will need to get the PCM reflashed for your VIN. Any dealer can do it, but for the best price, send it to Flight Systems and they do it for around 30 bucks, I think.

 

sounds good.. ill prob pick it up as soon as you get me a quote. just have to find my credit card without the balance. lol :bang:

 

I am guestimating the final weight of the kit, but it looks to be around 20 bucks shipping....

So we'll call it 770 shipped.

 

hey how much would you want for the PCM, WGA, injectors, TIP and MAP, WITHOUT the toys?

or would you sell it that way..

 

Check into the sct. When I got my car done there was a stock srt4 and all he had was 3" downpipe with no cat and 3" turboback exhaust. Put on a stage 2 wastegate and tuned the car and it put down 271 hp and 283 tq on a dynocom. My car made 320 hp and 343 tq with zero knock and tuned safe at 10.8 afr. Leaned out more now and I totally love the drivability of the car.