No we still can't buy them separately.........BUT,the tone rings from the 5.7 axles fit the SRT axles!So what you ask?Well....the 5.7 axles are only about $100 each instead of the $750-$900 of the SRT.......not to mention all the wrecked cars starting to show up in salvage yards.So the next time you have an issue with a tone ring on a DSS axle you don't have to go crawling to GSM.
Say what?!?!? That rocks! I apparently did a good job when I swapped mine out, and don't need any replacements. But this will be great news for a number of people.
You da man Hemi! That makes me feel good. Crawling to GSM doesn't work anyway, at least it didn't for me. How did you figure this one out? I really need someone I trust to put my Quaife and halfshafts in, I wish you were not in BFNY (well at least in the Winter).
We are right outside of Cincinnati and have done about 12 half-shaft swaps, we are more than capable of installing the shafts and the diff for you.
I need to talk with you to set this up. How can I get in touch? Can I get a phone number or e-mail address?
Help out the ignorant here....what are tone rings and when would I need to replace them. Is this something involving half shafts?
I do not know exactly what they do but it has something to do with ABS system. Some people call them ABS rings or ABS sensors. When you install the heavy duty halfshafts, you have to remove the tone rings from the OEM halfshafts and use them on the new shafts (unless you buy them from GSM with the rings already on). As I understand, if you were to damage the tone ring (which is possible), Chrysler does not sell the ring separately so you would have to buy a complete new halfshaft ($700-900) just to get one ring (just think if you broke both of them). The HD shafts were expensive enough as it is, to risk damaging a ring while removing it from the OEM shaft would be another major hit in the wallet that I don't want to take. Hemi31 has just discovered that the tone ring on on the 5.7 cars is the same one as on the SRT and the shafts for the 5.7 are many times less expensive. I am sure that someone else here can explain what they are much better. I have kind of the same situation with the Brembo calipers too. There is a bridge pipe on the rear calipers. It looks like a simple (about 10") brake line with a rubber "bumper" molded on to it. It is real easy to take off and replace with a new one. But, Chrysler does not sell it separately. I have to buy a whole new caliper to get it. Brembo doesn't sell it either because Chrysler actually designed the caliper and they don't actually sell that caliper themselves so they do not stock parts for it. Can you help on this one too Hemi31?
The speed sensors are the same and the 5.7 toner rings will mount on the 6.1, but I know their part numbers are different and I don't think they will tell the 6.1 computer the right info and may cause the car to go limp. C.
If there were part #'s for the tone rings we would be able to order them separately and wouldn't have this problem. Now the 5.7 guys are running 6.1 rears with 6.1 axles and the 6.1 tone rings work in their cars just fine.......so i am pretty sure that argument is out the window.The last piece was just making sure the tone ring fit the axle........which it does.
Out the window? How bout I have laid them beside one another. Their part numbers are different. As far as 5.7s running 6.1s. they bought 6.1 rears including 6.1 toner rings on the axles. I am the one who setup their TCM to work with the 6.1 rears. C.
Yeah.....Out the window....the rings work......I posted this to help other SRT owners...we know it works....why the hell are you making it difficult? And yeah...you set up a couple of TCM's.....but now Diablo has made that a thing of the past as well!And the 5.7 TCM's work just as well on the 6.1 axles as the 6.1 TCM. BTW.....wanna post up those part #'s for everyone?
Great if you know it works. If it doesn't, someone is going to spend a lot of money installing and then removing them. C.
Thanks for taking the time to write this great explanation. YOU are a gentleman and a scholor!!! I appreciate it!
Hi, I am unclear as to whether or not you have had a chance to install and run the 5.7 tone rings on a 6.1 axle. Would you please let me know if you have run this setup? Thanks!
It's done and Proven! The rings are the same!5.7 rings used with a 6.1 rear end......there is no difference in the rings.They have been installed in a car and driven...no codes whatsoever.So as long as 5.7 axles are cheap we have an out if we damage a ring!
Just did the swap yesterday on my car. The tone rings from the 5.7 fit perfect on the 6.1 halfshafts. Diablo worked like a charm on my Mopar Performance TCM as well for the gear swap. I know HEMI~C~ and PowerWagon BOTH used 6.1 tone rings with there half shafts and they worked fine with the 5.7 senders. Dan is using a Fast56K TCM and Chris is using his Mopar Performance TCM with the Diablo tuner and his working like a champ as well. A little sidenote however, it seems Mopar has done a slight revision on the 08 carrier's. Evidently, the pinion flange is a little bit thicker on the ***AC revision carrier. What this means is that if someone was swapping in a 6.1 rear, unless you get the bolts from the original carrier, Mopar no longer carries the shorter bolt. You will need to cut them down a tad (about an 1/8"). My carrier and axles came from a late build 07 but I did not get the flange bolts. Just a little FYI. Also, the 5.7 bolts (which are the same length as the new Mopar bolts), work fine in th swap. So only 1 new bolt is requirred.
