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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Viper Specialty, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. Viper Specialty

    Viper Specialty Dr. Viper

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    Just a few pictures of another VS-1500 block we are currently working on right now... on the home stretch getting this monster finshed up. This engine will see well north of 1000 horsepower, and has the capability of the 2000 range if some additional work is done to the heads, or if a set of Strikers Heads are supplemented with the correct seat/guide/valve configuration.

    Jim putting some of the peripherals on
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    Billet Caps and Studs installed over the Crank
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    Rods and Pistons Installed
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    Head Studs and Timing Set installed, Cam degreed
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    Oil Pan Installed
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    Heads Assembled and Installed (Note; these are not VS-1500 Spec Heads, Customer Spec'd bulletproof, but no porting. Jesel Valvetrain, new springs/Ti retainers/billet locks, bronze guides, Seals, and ceramic coated chambers/valves/runners)
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  2. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    wow, very cool!!!! love watching enigines come together at this stage in build!!!
     
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    CHERRY Full Access Member

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    I wonder if I can borrow it for a month or two when you are done ?
     
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    Mains Pobody's Nerfect

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    *borat voice* very nice!
     
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    Raland Full Access Member

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    Very nice!!! I always loved putting shortblocks together. There's something magic about torquing that last rod nut and rotating it around to #1 TDC the first time.

    I'm going to rub you, pet you and call you george..
     
  6. Viper Specialty

    Viper Specialty Dr. Viper

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    Thanks guys. I'll be adding some more pictures tonight...

    Yeah, working Sundays to get this thing out the door! We have about 1 more day of work on it, but still waiting for a few parts.
     
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    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    I'm not worthy, I'm not worhty. lol :mouth:

    Can't wait till you get that thing in and running.
     
  8. Viper Specialty

    Viper Specialty Dr. Viper

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    More Pictures:

    Manifold Installed
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    TNCHARGER Moderator

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    Looks awesome Dan....cant wait to see some numbers..
     
  10. Charg-um@BMC Performance

    Charg-um@BMC Performance The "Original" now @ BMC

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    Ok, so why do people keep asking me " Why do you want to put a Viper motor in your car, just get a 426."

    DUH !

    This is why !!!!

    May I ask how much something like this costs to build please.
     
  11. Viper Specialty

    Viper Specialty Dr. Viper

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    the VS-1500 Short Block is 13995.00 + core, or roughly 22,000 built out of a brand new short block, no core.

    This engine is right around 30,000. It is built out of a new shortblock, but had donor heads, timing cover, peripherals and manifold off of the old engine. The other 8,000 went into valvetrain, oiling system, powdercoat, coatings, other upgrades, various machining, extra assembly labor, fuel injectors, PCM programming, etc.
     
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  12. Charg-um@BMC Performance

    Charg-um@BMC Performance The "Original" now @ BMC

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    Great ! Thankyou. As I thought. A lot more than the 426 crowd is sinking into their engines.

    One more question.

    If I didnt want to go so extreme, and was looking for about 800 hp at the block, can you guestimate what the engine build up for something like that might cost ?

    And Thankyou !
     
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  13. Viper Specialty

    Viper Specialty Dr. Viper

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    Is that for a blower/turbo application, or are you trying to make 800 N/A (difficult)?
     
  14. Charg-um@BMC Performance

    Charg-um@BMC Performance The "Original" now @ BMC

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    Actually a blower would do the trick, and probably save me boatloads ( I think)
     
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    CentralTexHemi PUNISHER

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    Dan that is a thing of beauty you have mucho talent Sir, excellent work OHH and thanks for the free porn
     
  16. Viper Specialty

    Viper Specialty Dr. Viper

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    Yes, NA is about the most expensive route you can take....... with no return compared to FI. Unless you're a track nut who just wants a little more, FI is the way to go.

    Just a little more information:

    1. What is the year of the engine to be built?

    2. Is there anything wrong with the core engine?

    3. Is there any possibility that you will head towards the 1000 HP range in the future? The Paxton blowers can generate well over 1000 horsepower FYI.

    4. How much do you care about efficiency of the net package? For example, if 800 can be made without porting, would you do it anyway to get a few more ponies out of a given boost level?

    5. Lastly, what matters more to you- Dollars or Longevity? Would you pay more up front knowing you arent going to have to screw around with it anymore?


    I feel that I need to know the customer more than I need to know the application in this case. As I have seen, I can make suggestions until doomsday for some customers, but they only want the minimim setup, while other times some customers want the best, period- cost is a far second concern to having to ever upgrade the car again. Ironically, the first type often turns into the second type after a run in with engine damage of any type. people dont realize many times that the BLOCK of the Viper is 10 grand- go cheap on your internals, and they may cost you 2 or 3 times the price of NICE internals if they ever let loose... on top of buying the internals again and the labor to get it R&R'd. Ouch... this aint no $500 ebay LS1 block!

    One thing to keep in mind is how the costs of initial builds stack up to repeated builds or later upgrades. If you take the road of "i'll upgrade when it breaks", you will quickly find yourself leaps and bounds behind the guy who shelled out the extra for bulletproof from the start, as you are dealing with compounding build costs. In the same manner, you hae to consider the overlapping labor to build something half way, then taking it apart and building it again to finish the job. The overlapping labor will almost always overshadow the costs of building it the first time.

    As I always say- You're already in there- DO IT NOW or you'll hate yourself tomorrow!
     
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    Charg-um@BMC Performance The "Original" now @ BMC

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    Thanks again for all your input, I know many will think I am nuts, but go big or go home !
     
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    BTDAN Supporting Vendor

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    Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick . i'll take 2
     
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    Stretch Silver Supporting Members

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    Sweeeeet! I'll just never get used to seeing five holes on each side Lol!
     
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    Cam Management up n smoke

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    Holy long rod johnson there Dr. Viper, that is a thing of beauty.

    I have a question for you if you don't mind. Apparently you don't mnd powder coating the intake manifold. Do you think there is any negitive results from doing so?. I have run both on my 6.1 and have not noticed any discernable difference between the two with heat gain.

    Just wondering. Thanks.