You beat me to it. GGreek 5, you have several Jeeps running low 12s NA, I think you will see somebody pick up another 1.2-1.5 needed off a bigger shot. I always see people say that these motors will fail at X power, I dont believe we have seen ANY failures due to stress, almost every motor failure you see is due to tuning error.
How much HP are you making with your heads/cam kit? How are you tuned? Like I said with all the new Heads/cam kits coming out I think it could happen. PPP, SouthernHotRod are all making sick packages. Add a nice shot :boxing: No more so with SCT in the tuning game. Look out. My thoughts to the T!
Not sure what I'm dynoing at. Never done it, dont care to. I care what I run at the track. My best so far, spinning badly at the track was a 12.4 @ 107.78, with a 7.9 8th mile run. A week later, only in the 8th mile, (too windy for quarter) I ran a 7.82. All runs at New England Dragway. The 12.4 was my only run that day. I know I can do better. With the zex 125 shot, like I said before MAYBE I'll hit 11.6. Not even 1 full second off my time. How is a 200 shot, (only 75 more hp) gonna knock the time down 1.5 seconds?? I dont think it will happen.
There are a hand full rolling around. My buddy up here is shooting for high tens in his GT3076R SRT Neon. Not to offend you but you dont have what I would say is nasty heads/cam combo. Also with your tune. I would say if you had a SCT tune for your 125 shot you'd see your numbers come down. And yes a 200shot would bring down your E/T how much I dont know. But like said early Cobra Kid ran a 11.6 or a 11.4 with only a 150 shot and tune.
No offense taken buddy. And no offense to you when I say that I dont think there will be a Jeep with only heads and cam full exhaust, tune, etc, and a 200 shot, that will see 10's. lol. Did you miss the post about the stroked lx with all the bolt ons and a 200 shot running an 11.26?? That was on page 2.
Its also not fair to compare an LX to a Jeep considering the only thing in common they share is the motor. Different gearing, weight, and AWD make a big difference when you are comparing a 400rw jeep to a 400rw LX.
"Is" running or "ran"?? I believe he did this only once and for good reason. If I am wrong about the single run please let me know......and with all due respect one thread says 150 shot, another 175 shot another alleged 200 shot. I have run 125 and 150 and have yet to see "consistent" numbers. I did the 11.9 only once with a whole bunch of 12.0's all at 111.7-112. I saw no difference between the 125 and 150 shot on the track. So I have stayed with the 125 now. Everytime I go down the 1/4 with nitrous, I'm squeezing the Rosary harder than the nitrous..lol!! Hal is right......on a stock engine bye bye pistons. Same thing that happened to the early blowers when the attitude was "only a few more lbs".......well too much cylinder pressure in these engines and you'll be buying a new one. Thats why our new engines take into account the use of the engine before piston selection. Anyone who has raced alot knows once your stuck it takes alot to get to that next 1/10th!!!
Its all good. Yeah I saw that post. Did you see his 60ft time? 1.72ish. No if that was in one of our Jeep and we pull a 1.6 or .5 easy high 10s. Its all in your 60ft which can make or break your run. This also very true. May bad. I thought it was a 150 shot. From his sig over on the red site he has 175 shot. Whats were you 60ft when you went from 11.9 to 12s? I was under the impression that the 1st motor that blew was do to tuning and not the pistons? I agree with you on the 1/10th. When you want to get faster and faster it takes almost 2x the horse to get to the next step.
Im going to disagree.What would be easier to push a flat ceral box or one on end???lol Or what would take less power to move in the wind??
......to clear things up........... Ran 11.66@115 with a 150 wet shot with the plate. Upped the jets to 175 and went 11.49@116, with a 1.60 60 ft. (NOV 10th) Keep in mind, it was about 45* out, perfect track, but bottle had 3 runs on it, wasn't very warm, and I have super powershot solenoids. So what do the nitrous experts think was actually flowing through the truck? ...HONESTLY? The people that started the 200+ shot rumors were the ones that couldn't put up the numbers with their crappy "do all/end all tune" remember that? ..and I am not talking about the Jeep owner, I am talking about the mighty tuner that shortly after making a bunch of quick money faded into obscurity. I borrowed the jets of an LX person to up my shot that day. I didn't have jets that went that high. How much does everybody think the powershot solenoids can flow? If I jetted it for a 250 shot, what would it really flow? After talking to NOS, and the Nitrous Outlet, they verified the max I was getting that day on a full, pressured up bottle was no more than 175? Take that for what it is worth. The very next week, I ran an 11.62@115 jetted about 160 on a slightly warmer (52*) day. I didn't like being 3 hours from home, spraying the hell out of this leased Jeep. (again LOL) Remember it was unrisked, uncharted territory, and everybody thought I was a crazy redneck with a big shot o' juice! So technically, NO I didn't really back up the perfect 11.49 pass, but I haven't been back to the track either yet. I have been having trouble with my Predator, and have been working with Dave a little to dial in the 11.49 tune just a hair better. ..but as I stated in another thread..... my best, and limit is probably going to be a stacked 100 shot..... and "might" squeak an all time best of 11.25@118 on a perfect pass. The 10s aren't going to be as easy as throwing more HP at it, like a lot of people have stated. Plus, as Sgt Stanko said the next couple tenths off your best are a real b-Yatch! "The faster you go, the harder it is to go faster !"
I am going to go against the grain here. I think with a good cam and heads, intake and headers to match the flow of the heads and a 150 -200 shot you might have it. The major issue is getting consistent traction, and the lack of moving our shift point about 200-400rpm so it will not shift right before the trap. With my 11.4 pass i never juiced it in first. And was on and off the button. I am still not dyno tuned either. So I think My jeep is able to get in the 10's barely... if not low 11's.
What kind of tires are the Jeep guys runing at the track? Stock tires on 4 corners? Drag radials on the back only? Drag radials on 4 corners?
with stock driveline we have to run factory runflats or a good radial. The stock rear will not hold up to DR's. I ran my passes with my stock tires.
Then that may start to be one of the barriers to a 10 second 1/4 mile, no? The fastest LX's are now getting 60 foot times quicker than the fastest Jeeps - because of sticky tires, beefed up axles, etc., that it sounds like the Jeeps can't take advantage of - yet. I'm sure we'll see Jeeps in the 10's this year, and we'll see LX's in the 10's too. The only question is how much it takes to get there.
....FAST...you are dead on, with another 300 rpms on the shifts, if we ever get that option you will definately see at least 2 solid tenths. ...and... if anyone has a blazin shot at 10s, it's you. I sprayed my Jeep in first about 25 feet out and held it to the end. Yes, I go around the water...back down near it, do a dry practive N/A launch, and stage. Factory runflats at all 4 corners..............38psi in all...............damn, I am giving up almost all of my secrets. haha ...almost....
