90mm TB Dyno Results!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  1. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

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    Why would I want a larger throtle body and then kill a lot of the advantage by staying wih the samaller size CAI intake tube diameter?

    A little math here....on a 1/4" inch of flow loss (3.5" dia circle - 3" dia circle = 1/4" circular diameter) on the smaller 3" diameter cai inlet..
    Area of a circle = pie * radius squared
    Pie = 3.14
    3.0" throttle body radius = 1.50 (radius is 1/2 of 3.0")
    3.5" throttle body radius = 1.75 (radius is 1/2 of 3.5")

    so....
    3" cai tube inlet
    1.50 (radius)squared = 2.25
    3.14 x 3.06 = 9.61
    So area of 3.0" CAI intake tube end is about 7.06 square inches

    3.5" intake side
    1.75 (radius) squared = 3.06
    3.14 x 3.06 = 9.61
    So area of 3.5" throttle body intake side is about 9.61 square inches

    9.61-7.06=2.55 square inches of lost flow.

    So this means if I am reducing the intake from 3.5" to 3" for the CAI tube adapter I am loosing 2.55 square inches of flow. 2.55 square inches sounds small but that is a huge effect on flow (draw a square that is 2.5" by 2.5" and imagine how much air you could move thru it). In piping calculations I have heard that the rough equivalent is 6 times the flow for every pipe size.
    Not to mention pressure losses which will also be a side effect.

    I think that we will need new CAI intake tubes that end at 3.5" and not 3.0" to take full advantage of the purpose for which we bought a larger intake throttle body
     
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  2. Gilgamesh

    Gilgamesh Ron's Nemesis

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    Hmmm hey Andy when I get back in town I will give you a call and seee about getting a coated manifold with one of these babies as well. Looking forward to it ;)
     
  3. PPPAndy

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    The first run was bone stock. The second pull was a bone stock car tuned, the third run, we added a cai and CAI tune, the fourth run, we added the 90mm tb and tuned for it. We did all of this in the course of 2 hours, so yes there is even more power to get out of this unit. Keep in mind that this is a prototype and the production unit may perform even better. This was all done on a bone stock intake manifold. This is a gain of 47rwhp/52rwtq from a CAI/Tune/90mm TB. There isnt a better bang for the buck out there.

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  4. PPPAndy

    PPPAndy New Member

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    Thats incorrect. The ID is bigger than the stock OD, so that is impossible.
     
  5. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

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    Was the CAI a 3" inlet with 3.5" to 3" adapter installed? If not it would be nice if you could check thatt setup so we could tell if there is a diff or not. If it WAS done this way, can you get a CAI with a 3.5" inlet and see if you get more.
     
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    I think there are a few of us out there with 150 plus mm intakes.
     
  7. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

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    Well.... a pair of 90mm units will give them 180....lol
     
  8. Gilgamesh

    Gilgamesh Ron's Nemesis

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    Wow that would be huge...
     
  9. Cam

    Cam Management up n smoke

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    Hey now, taking it in the rear doesn't count. :wacko:


    Andy knows, I ported my intake opening at the TB to +90. So it's a bolt on with no restriction to flow.
     
  10. PPPAndy

    PPPAndy New Member

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    This is going in my signature. I spit my drink everywhere on this one.
     
  11. rtr0id

    rtr0id Full Access Member

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    the intake manifold opening is 83mm correct? has there been any port match testing yet?
     
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    rtr0id Full Access Member

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    bump

    has anyone ordered one yet? they are on sale now.
     
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    Looking to now.