Lets talk Turbo!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by PPPAndy, Jan 2, 2008.

  1. PPPAndy

    PPPAndy New Member

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    Thats right, after numerous months of engineering and testing, we are extremely close to releasing the CIS turbo system for all 5.7/6.1 chargers, 300s, magnums, and cherokees (ex. 5.7). Tuning with the Diablo has been a task, but we are possibly within 1 week of being done with the tuning. With that being said, how about some dyno numbers on a 5.7 and 5psi. On the Mustang dyno, we dynoed our plum crazy srt8 first for comparison sake. The SRT-8 is completely bone stock.

    330 RWHP
    357 RWTQ

    Now that is low, but Mustang dynos usually are lower than dynojet numbers. Another bone stock srt8 we dynoed on a dynojet layed down 360rwhp/381rwtq, so we can say there is about an 8.5% difference in the two dynos.

    Now the interesting numbers;
    My stock internals 5.7 running 5 lbs of boost

    367 RWHP
    453 RWTQ

    If we add another 8.5% for dynojet numbers, you are looking at
    400 RWHP
    495 RWTQ

    Thats is an insane amount of tq, but at the same time, that is just a calculation based on theoretical differences between dynojets and mustang dynos. What we know for a fact is that the car madw 37rwhp more than an srt8 and 100rwtq more than an SRT8, that my friends is absolutely huge. Next week I will bring you more info as we should be finishing up the tune on the 5.7 and starting the tune on the srt-8.
     
  2. 1bad4dr

    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    Man those are HUGE numbers PPP...

    Can't wait to see the 6.1 numbers though...

    Great job.
     
  3. PPPAndy

    PPPAndy New Member

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    Here is some additional info:
    System Details (base kit)

    · Single T3/T4 turbocharger.
    · 40mm – 50mm external wastegate (as applicable).
    · RFL type BOV.
    · All mandrel bent 304 SS tubing (both hot and cold side).
    · Enclosed Air intake system (not just a filter with a sock on it)(Patent Pending).
    · Complete exhaust system from the factory cats back to the polished SS exhaust tips (factory cats retained).
    · Bosch thread, wide band O2 sensor bung and plug installed.
    · Stainless Steel “T-Bar” clamps (no cheap worm clamps to leak).
    · 3 or 4 ply (as appropriate) 100% silicone connectors.
    · 8 new larger injectors
    · CIS tuning solution.
    · Snow Performance Stage 2 Programable Water/Methanol injection system.
    · Industry leading heat shielding materials in appropriate areas.
    · 16 new NGK spark plugs.
    · User mounted 30 in hg to 15 psi vacuum/boost gauge.
    · Unique vehicle badging.
    100% complete installation hardware, oil system components, wiring, brackets, etc, no welding or cutting required for installation.

    Pricing for the Hemi;

    5.7 Base system (as above) - MSRP $6,195.00
    6.1 Base system (as above) - MSRP $6,395.00
     
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  4. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    very much looking forward to seeing the final results!!! would not mind seeing this in my own ride as long as tuning will not be an issue!!!
     
  5. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    ppp - how do you envision this system on a stock motor???? no need for heads/cam/intakes??? is it set for stock internals or is forging going to be a must???? just curious.....
     
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    PPPAndy New Member

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    Those dyno numbers are on a stock 5.7 with 25,000 miles on the system with absolutely no damage or issues with driveability. The 6.1 has more compression, but as long as you stay below 7psi you should be fine.
     
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    mjc1241 Full Access Member

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    I would imagine that 5lbs of boost on a stock block would be fine. If I am not mistaken, turbos are a bit less stressful on an engine than a supercharger.
     
  8. 1bad4dr

    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    7psi "Should" be fine on a stock block, but I would recommend staying at 6 - 6 1/2 psi for high ring land reasons.

    Now hurry up and get those 6.1L numbers up...:thanks:
     
  9. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    sooooo, stock 6.1 running this system, under 7psi of boost, and tuned correctly with all of the aforementioned parts included in the kit, will still be a reliable daily driver, but with much more attitude!!! mmmmmmm, sign me up!!!!! :towel:
     
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    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    Ooooooooooor, build a forged bottom end with lower compression and run HIGH boost for CRAZY power... hehe
     
  11. NYCSRTATE

    NYCSRTATE Maximus Want 2 Go Fastius

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    I have to block some vendors, you guys are gonna make me broke. :guns::eek:k:
     
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    the kit will come setup for 5psi, but I am sure someone will turn it up, just hope they dont go above 7, lol.
     
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    JMatt Platinum Supporting Member

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    You killjoy! I bet you don't recommend a 275 shot of nitrous on a stock engine either? LOL!!!!!!
     
  14. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    and for A LOT more money!!! hahahahaha
     
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    PPPAndy New Member

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    That is correct, install and go. Awesome setup. Nothing like the feeling of a jet taking off and pushing you into the seat.
     
  16. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    very interested in seeing some good solid, tuned numbers for a stock 6.1 motor. where is the turbo mounted??? is it a remote style under the car???
     
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    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    lol well uuummmm not unless you are JMatt... hahaha
    Not really a lot more money. 10K is a fair price for a built motor that can shave 1.5 seconds off your stock time.

    Think of the possibilities a built motor can give a gear head... hehe
     
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    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    good point ron......
     
  19. HEMISFEAR

    HEMISFEAR Ur Friendly Canadian

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    This sounds awesome. I've always been a fan of turbocharging..keep us in the loop on the SRT8 fo sho!
     
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    8yourM5 Full Access Member

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    Just when I thought I was done modding. Well andy glad to see we can now go the rout I want to back when I first called u