I too got "SCREWED" by TECHCO, and CTP will come to the rescue...

Discussion in 'Crank This! Performance' started by TechcoCorvette, Sep 29, 2009.

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  1. 1bad4dr

    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    You think you were "Screwed" by Shitco, eh... muahahahahahahaha
     
  2. TechcoCorvette

    TechcoCorvette Full Access Member

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    :cry2::baby: Well, others may have gotten screwed worst, but at least I believe that TECHCO "somewhat" paid to finish their jobs (I may be wrong, as I did not get a chance to speak about this in detail with Cam. I believe tham Cam may have come out worst in this situation than the customers), while mine is all coming out of pocket. The worst of all is their violation of their written and signed powertrain warranty that I have in my hands, which now is null, because it was through them directly, and not a third party provider. :thongue2:
     
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    Sure do man :)

    Im out of pocket also ... I was their damn 5.7 R&D car so nothing has worked correctly. It works well, just not like it should. I will need to get it tuned once I can afford.

    I have to say .. With your ride down at Cam's shop you in very good hands.
     
  4. TechcoCorvette

    TechcoCorvette Full Access Member

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    Yes, that was when I was NA, and before the Techco ordeal. I was making 428 RWHP and 418 RWTQ SAE with a full exhaust, CAI, and a tune. My Vette was also part of their R&D program, and I think they completed 3 Corvettes in all, besides their R&D car.

    PS: DEFINITELY get your tune looked at by a reputable shop, because from what I heard, their tuning capabilities were horrible, and you do not want that to cost you an engine.
     
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    SMosher Silver Supporting Members

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    Im already on my second motor thanks to Techco :)

    Carlos took very good care of that situation so no bitches from my side.
    I have some shops I have my eyes on like Bob up at SvS in Sac. We'll see what goes on in the future.
     
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    REALLY? They blew up your motor? Was it done while still in thier possesion? I assume that it was due to bad tuning?
     
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    Bad tuning. Ran the damn thing too lean. And no, she blew up just out side of Modesto. I had to drag her fat ass all way back to Techco.
     
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    Wow, that is crazy.
     
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    Don’t you hate it when you get screwed, and there is no kissing involved!!!
     
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    I guess that "SHITCO" did not believe in foreplay. :censored:
     
  11. Cam

    Cam Management up n smoke

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    Well James, I got good and bad news for you.

    First the bad news:

    1: I completed a ambient temp leak down test today at 9 psi. It held it for 3 hours and never faultered once.

    2: I then idled the car until the coolant temp was at 100 degress and then pressurized the system to 7 psi. The temp on the system never exceeded 170 degrees, max pressure gain netted 9.5 psi and as the fans would come on, both the temp and the pressure fluxuated accordingly. This test took an hour.

    3: After shut now, super heating (as expected) gain a rise to 12PSI after 10-15 minutes. It's now been cooling off for a total of 1.5 hour and temp has dropped to 120 degress and PSI is still at 9.5.

    4: The last test to do is to see if the collant level dropped at all (in the morning). Which I highly doubt happened.

    So the bad news is there is nothing wrong with the car IMO. Go drive the damn thing and enjoy the piss out of it. She's a gorgous ride man.

    The good news is there is nothing wrong with the car. So I don't gotta fix what ain't broke.
     
  12. TechcoCorvette

    TechcoCorvette Full Access Member

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    Thank you Cam for the post, but here is my question, and BELIEVE me, I want nothing to be wrong as well. Why is it that every time that I drive the car, the coolant level drops in the reservoir? After each drive, I have to keep refilling that reservoir to get the level back up. Furthermore, I see some small puddles on my garage floor, when it sits overnight. Do you think that it may be leaking when the car is driven? I give you permission to drive the car, if that is what it takes to duplicate the issue. The reservoir drops below the two coolant hoses after each drive, and I have to keep adding to the system after each drive. The level gets down to around the location of the pictures that I e-mailed to you, before bringing the car in. You mentioned if the system is not holding fluid and is not always on the full mark, it has to be leaking, so what gives? I am confused now.

    PS: The dealership also noticed the same issue with the intercooler fluid dropping the level, and requested my permission to put some fluid in there. They noticed this when they were servicing my cooling system, due to the CHECK COOLANT LEVEL issue that was dispayed on my DIC.

    Will the system hold 20 PSI, as you had mentioned that it had to? This would also explain the loss in power from when Techco dynoed the car to what it sees now, and the KR at lower RPM's and slight detonation that was displayed at highet RPM's.
     
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  14. Cam

    Cam Management up n smoke

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    Well when you came in on Sunday. Remember I cracked the lid on the system and it was under pressure. Also when I inspected the coolant level before I did anything today it covered both orfices. absolutely no indication of a leak and considering your drive all the way from Fresno, pretty damn impressive.

    But I'll bite that aggressive driving could make a very minor issue raise it's ugle head and create a situation that would cause a leak to fester somewhere.

    And thanks for the permission, but I don't drive customers cars. Never, ever. It'll go around the facitliy for some low speed checks, but it stops there. Period.

    Now for the drop in performance. Sorry man, there is no such thing as an absolute number on a dyno on different days. Huge changes, sure there's a problem. But within +/- 1-2%......that's just conditions.

    What she needs is a nice CAI and she'll make numbers. Turns out the LS motor is just as prone to knock as our's is. So major heat gain, major knock.

    Like I explained over the phone. Take it to a dyno, borrow my leak down tester for the Techco and have at it. If she leaks, find out where. But without tearing everything thing apart and inspecting every little tiny detail and replacing items just for the sake of replacing them isn't a good idea.
     
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    Yes, ANY time that I drive the car, period, agressive or not, it has dropped down in fluid, much like the pictures that I sent to you. you and I both concluded by the pictures, that it had to be leaking somewhere, if the fluid was not at a consistent level. BTW, I have only checked the level when the motor is cold, and fill it back up to the appropriate level.

    If I borrow your leak down tester, and test the system in a dyno, will it only show if it is leaking, but not the location, correct? IF the leak is external, then it would manifest somewhere, but how would ne know the location of an internal leak?

    The issue being is that I am a 600-mile round trip from you, and my tuner is in Reseda, which I would go on my way back to Fresno. The question is that I would have to bring the car back to you once again for repair, once we confirm the leak on the dyno.

    I am thinking that the leaking condition is not manifesting itself at idle.

    Cam, please check all of the hoses leading up to and from the intercooler to the supercharger.

    My car dynoed within 1 HP from Techco's dynojet to the other facility that I have used, so the FI number should have been similar, but they were not, even with the same tune, corrected in the same fashion, and simimar ambient air temperatures.
     
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  16. Cam

    Cam Management up n smoke

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    I'll check each connection before it leaves James, no problem.
     
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    TechcoCorvette Full Access Member

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    Thank you Cam. Instead of me picking up the car from so far away, and having me take it to a dyno shop, can you please take it, and test it on a dyno, to simulate driving conditions, since the leak cannot be duplicated at idle. I hope that you understand my point, but for me to drive to Riverside from Fresno is 300 miles, then I would have to drive 100 miles to my tuner's dyno, just to confirm that there is a leak, then I would have to drive 100 miles back to your shop in Riverside, and then another 300 miles to Fresno with my wife following me. :stars:
     
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    Cam is a great dude.

    Let me know when you head down there James. I can make a trip. Im only in Modesto.

    Oh btw James I found these pics ...

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  19. Cam

    Cam Management up n smoke

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    Sorry bro, no can do. I will say this only one more time. I do not drive customers cars. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but if it's a hose leak, which I'm certian it would be, and I can't find it, the other guys will be able to fix it no problem. I will check everything as best I can. But you drove all the way here and it at best lost 1/2 oz of coolant.

    Guys, his system is set up different then what you've seen on the LX's. The actual reservoir tank is sealed. And there is a for lack of a better term, petcock style inline filler neck. It holds maybe 1.5 oz's of fluid.

    BTW, I just went out and checked, the system finally dropped to 7psi and I removed my tester and the fluid is at the same exact level it was at when I started the test.

    Sorry bud, I know it was a long drive. But I can't fix what ain't broke.
     
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    Great pictures. Now everyone that has asked for pictures, can see my Organge Vette, so thank you. I am heading to Cam's shop this Friday. I am just so stressed out at this time, becasue I know there is a leak somewhere in the system that Cam cannot duplicate at idle, but it is there for sure. My dealership verified it as well, as one of my friend's is a tech there, but obviously has no experience with blowers, LOL. I just wanted to avoid putting over 1.000 miles on the car, for a second trip to CTP, once the leak is verified on a dyno.

    Thanks again Cam, but why in the world would the fluid drop in that reservoir, every time that I drive the car, and check the level in the morning, and have to keep topping if off after each drive? Unless some miracle happened during my drive to your shop, and the leak all of a sudden stopped. I had to top it off the night before the trip to your facility, after going out to fill the tank up with gas. Cam, I will take the tester with me to the dyno shop. Please e-mail me instructions, so that the shop knows how to use this tester, and how much pressure the system should hold while the car is on the dyno.

    I guess that we concluded from all of this, that the leak is not pronounced at idle. Yes, that tiny reservoir contains only a few ounces of fluid.

    Cam, you are free to post the pictures that I e-mailed you for others to view them.
     
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