NEED HELP: SRT8 motor - SRT10 Viper motor

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  1. BOSChargerSRT

    BOSChargerSRT Full Access Member

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    i'm trying to help a friend out. i've got someone with a lot of cash and wants to swap out his stock charger srt motor, with a viper srt10 motor. i need to know, is it possible without issues and whats needed (if possible). next, is there a better option, crate motor?
    i figured why go thru the hassel of fitting a srt10 motor, instead do a crate and build up. so what are your thoughts?
    just to let you know, going with a new paint job, full custom interior, stereo, suspension, etc..... we have roughly 80k to play with.
    thanks a bunch.

    i need options fast. having a meeting soon to go over everything. i'll keep you guyz posted.

    btw, this is not for me. i could only wish......
     
  2. 1bad4dr

    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    The Viper motor will fit, but many big changes will be needed?

    I say, call Scott from CMW and have them build a radical 426 or 440 blown combo and be done with it. Less hassles. IMO
     
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    426 forged stroker and forced induction. Otherwise you're swapping wire harness, transmission, etc. DTP is doing a customers car this week with the above that will baseline at 700rwhp. Not sure what more you could want in a street vehicle, but I know they're out there.

    LOL. Same wavelength.
     
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    Cam Management up n smoke

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    Well it depends on just how far does this guy want to go. Does he want a 100% functioning ride with all the bells and whistles or does he want a race car that looks bitching.


    If he wants the ride to function, stay with a built 6.1 based block and boost it. There are severl choices out there now. For good power and looks, I'd choose a twin screw. Your pretty safe on the build and the tuning if your goal is around 700RWHP, everything exists right now today to get there and give the guy a driver he can enjoy. After that, it gets wacky.
     
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    thanks guyz! where also looking for a reputable installer to do the job. we have a few local mustang guru's, but i'd like someone who knows exactly what there doing. two different beast. as far as going with a crate, i agree. i just need to talk him into it. he's just dead set on seeing that viper motor. i'm trying to get a list of reasons why not to go with the viper motor.
    ron, i'll give him a call tomorrow.

    thanks bro! he's got the cash to go real deep. i'll talk it over with him.
     
  6. 1bad4dr

    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    Hire Erik (Hemi31).

    You can not get any better than Erik.
     
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    Cam Management up n smoke

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    I'm in the process of building an extreme ride for a guy and have spent a huge amount of time trying to find out what he EXACTLY wants to do with it. I'm not at liberty to say what it will become, but lets just say he'll have power windows and AC......MUHAHAHAHA!!.

    BTW, I highly recommend you talk with Hemi31. He's only 5 hours from you and knows these cars like the back of his hand. Not only is he a great wrench and wealth of information, he's one of the good guys and you'll never get steered wrong.

    And he travels :)
     
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    thanks again! i'll talk with hemi31.

    ron, i tried calling you a couple times today, but didn't leave a message. i will next time.
     
  9. Kevan

    Kevan SRT-10 Owner

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    WAY more go-fast goodies for the 6.1L, and MUCH cheaper parts (even the uber-part).
    Sure, there are 1800HP Viper-powered setups out there, but even with insane down-tunes they're barely drivable.

    It's easier to get a Viper engine to 700HP, but when it goes boom (not "if", right Ron? LOL), it's 3x the cost to replace it.

    That said, it *is* possible. Check out Dodge's prototype Challenger with the Viper drivetrain.
    That thing caused a huge mess in my pants.
     
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    SRT8U Supporting Vendor

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    I agree with what has been said...but if he has the funds and really wants to do it...anything can be done. We have a customer right now that is wanting us to build him an SRT10 Chally as well.
     
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    See Jimmy,Everyone is agreeing with what we talked about this morning ;)


    BTW x10 with hemi 31 .He would take care of that friend of yours..GOOD LUCK AND KEEP US POSTED.
     
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    thanks again!

    scott, your correct! of course! now i have to try and talk him into a crate motor. i'll be call you soon for a big order as well. i'm trying to get a list of every aftermarket option out there, performance, suspension and cosmetic (in/out). thanks bro!
     
  13. 1bad4dr

    1bad4dr Mr. Meany

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    lol I was wondering who was calling me from Mass? hahaha

    Sorry Jimmy, I have been consumed all week at an install. It has been a nightmare to say the least. lol

    Call me anytime bro.
     
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    Ok....heres the PM I just sent BOS......
    Heres the problem.....the car will never pass an OBDII check.Putting the motor in the LX is not very difficult....time consuming but not difficult.....the hard part is that none of the interior parts will communicate with the Viper PCM.Even if you go stand alone you will need to leave the LX PCM and harness intact for the guages,starter(not sure on the starter) and the rest of the CanBus to operate.Then have a second PCM to run the motor with a second OBD port for diagnostics.Because the VIN for the LX cannot be coded into the Viper PCM and the fact that the car came with less than 10 cylinders from the factory it will NEVER be street legal in the North East.

    Now.....getting the actual motor in the car won't be an issue,just some fabrication....But I doubt the Nag 1 will work because of the PCM issues(who cares the 6speed is better)BUT.......whats the point if you cannot drive it?
     
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    Chrysler has a Viper Challenger prototype running around....even rumors it might be built........but I'm with others here....cheaper to build the hemi and the V-10 is hard to get that sound that nothing but an American V-8 can make...
     
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    freaking nobodys better than eirk!...and you being close to him is just a plus!

    and jesus i thought i was bad LOL
     
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    fellas, thanks for leading me in the right direction. hopefully i'll know more tomorrow. now i have to start shopping for someone else. should still be fun.
    the good thing is, he's got a head start, with the fastest color, silver...

    i didn't know erik was local to me. i would have sent him more business. i'll keep it in mind, now that i know. this is good for me too, for when i'm ready.
     
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  18. Wyoramsrt

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    If it was me I would go the Hemi route. Exactly for reasons stated above for the Viper motor. If your guy wants the Viper name and Sound of the Viper motor. Which is one of those love it or hate it sounds and very identifiable, he should get the Viper. But if he is wanting power, build that hemi up. Nothing sounds better than a worked up V-8!

    I have heard some guys say if they blow there motor they are going with a Hemi crate motor. Looking at about the same price if not cheaper.

    I just thought of something else.* If he is willing to spend that kind of coin and is probably obsessed with the Viper motor he should just buy a new 08 and be done with it.* He would have his car by the end of the week instead of months and months and months:)

    I just thought of something else. If he is willing to spend that kind of coin and is probably obsessed with the Viper motor he should just buy a new 08 and be done with it. He would have his car by the end of the week instead of months and months and months:)
     
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    NetNathan Not the Momma

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    My post did not post. So maybe it will show up three times. If you guy is so set on the Viper motor and willing to spend that kind of coin. He should buy a brand new 08 Viper car. He would have his car by the end of the week compared to months and months of building.