Ksport Kontrol Pro install help needed ASAP

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  1. Mains

    Mains Pobody's Nerfect

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    So here we are in the shop yelling and cursing and this install. We have only taken off the driver rear at this point and we are unable to get the top hat to sit flush against the body.

    Mind you we are three apes that have never installed coilovers so be kind :D

    Has anyone had this problem and how did you address it?

    Second question about how much did you thread down on the lower bracket for ride height? We currently have them fairly turned down just wanted to insure that is what we are too do.

    Thanks for your help in advance.

    Chris
     
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    Cygnus Platinum Supporting Member

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    Here's a pic of them... atleast the ones I found
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    Is it the coilovers with the big round top hat?
     
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    Mains Pobody's Nerfect

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    yup
     
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    Cygnus Platinum Supporting Member

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    Ok those are the rear ones, I just went to my car and check my stock struts and that mounting point at the end is for the sway bar endlink. Is the car on a lift or it is on the ground?

    Does the top hat angle off at all or is it just flat? If just flat then I guess it doesn't matter on how it goes so long it faces the right direction. Make sure the coilover/strut your trying to install is for the driver's rear. Put the top hat studs through the corresponding holes, put a nut atleast on one of them (middle one prefer). Fight with securing the two bottom bolts. Since these are coilover I don't think much force would be needed like installing springs on stock struts and fighting with the struts. But once you have the bottom two bolts, and the one stud on the top hat in place. The others should popped through and be able to put the nuts on them or you may have to fight with it until you get it lined up.

    The drivers rear is what gave us trouble on my car. The passenger rear for some reason went smooth.
     
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    Quick Mgmt. - I can't help you

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    ...oooh, this has potential for great hilarity... :bigwink::popcorn:
     
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    Mains Pobody's Nerfect

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    Not on a lift. but both rears were off the ground. We attempted to do it top first and could not get the bottom 2 bolts to line up... Then we did bottom finger tight and tried lifting it into position and all the bolts went through, except the one towards the outside was just barely poking through. No threads showing yet. we kept jacking it until we saw the spring compressing then backed off as not to harm the coilover or the car. We attempted this on both sides, same results.

    We are done for the evening, it is back on the stock struts and hotchkis springs. I am pretty disappointed about the situation. But grateful to have Sean (the///man) and Nate (KingNate) there to give a different point of view on the subject. Best friends a man could ask for :)

    ps, yes we were sure we had the right ones. As the sway bar wouldn't line up if we had it assed.
     
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    Cygnus Platinum Supporting Member

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    Hmmmm, I'll think about it tonight and I'll get back to you tomorrow on this. We did mine from the ground too and had the rear completely off the ground. But then again it wasn't a coilover setup but none-the-less the install should be pretty much the same although I could be wrong. It is a PITA to line-up.

    The spring compressed but the stud towards the outside was still not through the hole where the nut could be placed on it correct?
     
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    Mains Pobody's Nerfect

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    I can't help but wonder if we have to preload the coilovers a bit before they will fit.
     
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    Could be. I would think if they are extended too far it wouldn't line up. Its the same for aftermarket springs on stock struts, they are compressed.
     
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    We tried it at both long and short setting and it was still off by a bit. I couln't really see a way to make the planes created by the holes in the coil over and the rotor assembly line up.


    Maybe he needs a camber adjustment plate to make it work. :shrug:
     
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    Did they come with instructions? If the bolts on the bottom were pushed through and there was 2 studs on the top going through, its a possibility there's an alignment issue.

    Here's my suggestion:
    Put the studs through the top and thread the nuts finger tight, if anything tightened them. (Although it may work just with putting the nuts on the studs to where you can move the coilover assembly up and down without them coming off and still have some play to work with). DO NOT push or put too much stress on the coilover unit, well don't put enough to break the studs, I don't know how stronge those studs are. Try pushing up the rotor assembly unto it, you may have to pry it. Get atleast (1) bolt through and fight to get the second one.

    I don't think bolting it at the bottom then trying to line up the top will work because of the restriction of flex.
     
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    Mains Pobody's Nerfect

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    Yes it has instructions detailed I might add:
    Step 1)Remove stock assembly
    Step 2)Replace with Coilover
    Step 3)dance

    We first tried top to bottom install before anything and had issues of getting the bottom bolts lining up.
     
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    Cygnus Platinum Supporting Member

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    This might be for IPP coilovers but the concepts or some may apply for the Ksport:

     
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    Mains Pobody's Nerfect

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    Yeah saw that too. Didn't really help much... thanks man... (sorry not shooting you down with every post, if anything it shows you where we are on this install)
     
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    hmmm.

    Might be something there... did you compare the two?
     
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    nevinsrt Getaway driver for hire

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    you know you can go to the Do it your self Auto shop on San pedro and Domingo it cost you $10 an hour for a lift and tools.
     
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    But then he is spending 10 bucks an hour to see that the geometry is still wrong. :erm:
     
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    Mains Pobody's Nerfect

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    Agreed. We had everything we needed to do the swap the same as doityourself. Just because it would be on a lift would not change the situation.

    Thanks Nev for the input though bro.
     
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    nevinsrt Getaway driver for hire

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    true, but its still nice to use a lift.
    I enjoy using the one on base.
    i just threw it out there as a comfort thing.