I did a boost leak test today and the Boomba bov was leaking through the VENTS. Before someone thinks the Boomba bov is leaking itself. The install was done properly, just like when I had the blue plate. No leaks at the gasket(s). The Boomba gaskets are intact and none are leaking. So, it is said if your blue plate is leaking through the vents to turn the key to the ON position. I did that and even cycled through and it still leaked through the VENTS. Alright, that didn't work. Lets take it unto another approach so I started to think. Alright top hat of the bov where the pink line feeds in. I unplugged the pink line from the bov, pressurized the system and it leaked out the pink line. Ok, I then cap off the pink line. Pressurized the sytem to 10psi and no leaks. Feel around the bov and no leaks. Pressurized the system to 13psi and bov went off (its got the 13psi spring). So the bov itself is leak free, the solenoid could be in open loop atleast thats what I'm thinking. Oh I forgot to add, I was pressurizing the system to 20psi before I ran the pink line testing. Just so no one thinks I only went to 13psi while doing boost leak test(s).
Thats funny because that happened when I had the blue plate and the stock in, but when I had the forge I didn't have to do that.
Lol, yeah I found it a bit odd. Opposite for me, when I had the stock surge valve and blue plate... I didn't even have to disconnect anything or even turn the key to the ON position. It was leak free and no air came out the vents. I might reset the PCM, its no biggie for me as long as the bov itself is leak free .
Don't turn the key on or you will have to reset the ecu because it will throw an over pressure code. I also had an issue with the stock surge valve not sealing right and was leaking from behind the diaphram. Its actually what cause me to say to hell with it and buy hard pipes and an HKS.
You won't throw an over pressure (boost) code with Stage 1 :happy:. I already turned the car on and went around the block. No codes. I never had an issue with the stock surge valve leaking nor blue plate.
Great post. I had the AGP EM and it was leaking through the vents with the key on the ON position. I read about cycling the on and off on the other forum and that balanced it out. But some people it didn't work. I ended up taking it off and the copper RTV had a split in one section. Great troubleshooting on your part by taking the pink line off and trying it both ways. So I take it its a good idea to cap that pink line and run the boost leak test to 20 psi. Everytime I boost leaked the car I could never get it up that high. I believe 18 psi was the highest. Think its my compressor not producing enough csfm? Should be 5 at 20 psi. 2.4 csfm @ 90 psi 3.7 csfm @ 40 psi 1hp 3 gal 125psi max
yea a 1hp and a 3gal tank really wont work its like almost using a pancake compressor im using a 5hp and a 30gal tank and it works well
Dammit I forgot you had the s1. Cool glad it worked out. :mains: I think I am going to go and change back to the stock WGA and see if I am still pulling timing but that is a discussion for another thread.
Well we found leaks on a friends car using this compressor, I mean it does the job doesn't it? It has a regulator to shoot 20 psi into the system thats all that is needed.
I had air shooting out the vents past 10 psi with the ignition off. Wasn't leaking around the RTV at all. I should of did what you did and capped the pink line and cap the nipple on the BOV to really test it. There is a local who has his Boomba setup like a aftermarket BOV so its T'd into a direct vac source and he doesn't use the pink line at all. It is capped on the solenoid there with a vac cap. He said he gets a lot less flutter but it goes off in VAC a lot like the Mopar piece. So what do you guys think about running into the TB line? I guess it won't hurt to try.
Yo Jesus, I know that your leak is not in the bov itself but just so you know that bov WILL leak over time. It might be not even enough to loose a pound of boost but me and J-srt4 found that the Mopar/Boomba plates will eventually start to leak. Hardpipes and an attachable bov is the best/leak free way to go. You probably already know this but I figured it was the only thing I could contribute to the post. I'd have to be with you during the test to locate your leak.
^ Well its because the diaphragm and spring become week over time and there will be play in it... Like I took off mys tock surge valve off my stock turbo and examined and compared it with the newer one that was on the S3 fold. The rubber piece on the old one was not level and it had side to side play in it and didn't seat all the way down. The newer one was very nice and firm, and sat perfectly on the aluminum with no play at all. This thread is mainly about the Boomba though and I am still skeptical on it. Don't really want to spend a good amount of money on a new Synapse BOV with a hardpipe if my Boomba is fine, but the flutter and compressor surge I get when I spool it up and let off isn't good, granted I do not drive like that. Either pedal to the metal or very light on the throttle... This minimizes compressor surge with my car. But with say teh Synapse, I can drive the car anyway I want.
^^^ You are correct. The piece just becomes warped after time, there is no stopping this from happening. When you turn your srt4 into a fucking beast, the boomba should not be in the equation. Get what I'm sayin? High boost application, with surge, and leaks, = loss race, and early termination of critical parts. That's all.
With the Boomba unit either the piston will wear out eventually, so I've heard. That or the piston gets stuck over time. When I first got this car the first thing I did was buy a blue plate from Dodge. Installed it myself and it never once leaked. From there I went with a HKS SSQV w/JMB UPP on my car and sold it. Then I went to the Boomba unit and sold it. Now I'm running the blue plate w/stock surge valve. I've never had a problem with the blue plate/stock surge valve leaking. I heard they warp overtime and causes leaks though. I'd like to keep my stock airbox for now, so I've been trying to find a used Perrin UPP (ended up finding 2 of them and one seller never got back to me and the other sold it right from underneath me when I had first dibs). So now its trying to find a JMB UPP version that has the bov flange facing down that way I can keep my stock airbox. I'm not going to hack it like others have.
Does it matter if the BOV faces up or down when you are running an external one? I see on JMB's site you have the option to have it pointed down or up. More noise when up? And you can only run a SRI or CAI kit with it up? I too have heard of the piston getting stuck and its because you need to take it apart and lube it up with silicone grease... But thanks for your input Havok, I don't think I should be running this Boomba anymore I think its time for an Obama change lol. Once it stops snowing I will try to re-route my vac lines so my Boomba will be run like an external BOV, see how I like it then..... I just need to find a good deal on a UPP and a Synapse BOV...
Doesn't matter which way a bov points. On my wife's her points towards the transmission. While when I had my HKS pointing towards (leveled with the pipe) the ground. I would imagine its louder if it pointing/closer to an opening (like the ground). If the bov flange and bov on the top of the UPP... then you can only run stock intake if you remove the stock airbox or hack the bottom of it. Otherwise you would need to run an aftermarket intake (SRI or CAI). The AEM SRI I used to have sat right on top of my HKS. So the AEM SRI is a "maybe" to what bov you choose and where the bov flange is placed on the pipe as each different type of UPP the flange is placed differently as far as location. The Injen and all the rest that point towards the fender are no problem at all and give plenty of clearance for an aftermarket bov. The Synapse is a big unit but seems to the be the best bov out there from what I've read and vids I've seen.
Found a nice little gem on the how-tos ection that I totally forgot about: http://www.srtconnection.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5653 I would have to get a 4 way T though correct? Since I have a line going to my S3 fuel rail?
Got it all hooked up last week. This is what it sounded like with the pink line hooked up to the Boomba BOV just like stock: http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/r1c0chet/?action=view¤t=acer065.flv Flutter and compressor surge. Followed the how-to in the how-to section. PRetty much elimintated the middle solenoid. No lines are hooked to it now. Plus got rid of a bunch of other lines. After. http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/r1c0chet/?action=view¤t=acer.flv No flutter at all. Sounds great at WOT! Sounds like a damn Tial. (Both videos are done at partial throttle boost. Give it a bit of gas and shift)