Kudos to Vortech: Bud vs. SDcarguy vs. MotherMopar

Discussion in 'Engine & Performance Modifications' started by Bud, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. Bud

    Bud GG EVO IX MR

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    On the way home from "Beach Burger Friday Nights" in Huntington Beach last night....after blowing away Cam at a light :huglove:....I decided to see what old SDCarguy (John) had underneath his hood after Vortech answered the call by upping the boost on the R&D cars a pound or two. Driving on the 405 South I see an open stretch of road ahead of us and pull up next to John and we slow down to about 60mph (John also has a tune by Mike at Inertia, and a passenger, custom wheels, 22" tires). I give him three honks. Not only did he "immediately pull away from me...he pulled fast and hard. When I lifted at 120mph he had 6 cars on me no problem. I repeated two more times with the same results.

    MotherMopar (Jason) and John did a couple runs after that. Jason (no passenger, Vortech tune, 20" tires) managed to pull on John from the get go, and if memory serves me correctly, had John by 1/2 to 3/4 of car when they finally lifted. So now...Jason is lower and faster than John :tooth:. I say that half kidding because Johns 22's slow him down a bit and make it sit a tad higher....EVERY dog has it's day (Jason).

    Jason and I did a couple runs after that and Jason slingshot past me like I wasn't even there each time. I'd say 6-8 cars at 120mph.

    On a side note: Jason was beside himself all night at the burger joint because groups of people were standing next to his all night and wanting to discuss things with him. I fully expect Jason to be sporting some "over the top" designer shades and smoking clove cigarettes with show car sign at the next meet and greet! :zorro:
     
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  2. MOL

    MOL SHOW & PERFORMANCE

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    great story. i think jason was i awhhhhh
     
  3. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    wow, i take it there have been some "tweeks" to the vortech r&d cars...... the last i paid attention, it was only a one car difference. in all seriousness, what has been done to make things better??? i know you mentioned boost increase, but just john or overall??? what about ryans sled???
     
  4. Bud

    Bud GG EVO IX MR

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    Ryan...and I "think" Drew haven't made the journey back north for the tweaks. So they can still beat me by a car. Adam, John, Ralph, and Jason have all made the journey and the cars are amazing!
     
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    MOL SHOW & PERFORMANCE

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    so much for your one car length theory!!!!!!!! lol. soon i will be on my way.
     
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    Awesome..!!!!!!!
     
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    SRT8U Supporting Vendor

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    So when are you bringing your car down hehe
     
  8. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    so what kind of "tweeks"????

    not worth the gas to race a station wagon...... that would be like going against a soccer mom in her caravan.....kinda fun, but not something you can brag on the forums about...... :bigwink:

    the day you guys start dealing the new sms296 set ups!!!! :D i know the vortech is a good unit, but i just can not deal with all the plumbing in the engine bay........:eek:oh:

    btw, have you gotten the "tweeks" like the san diego r&d crew???
     
  9. sdcarguy

    sdcarguy A bit off

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    Rick got it almost right. Jason had me by about 1/2 to 3/4 of car. I feel that the added passenger and my 22s made for this. I am only 3 revisions in on the inertia tune with more to come. Hell it hasnt even been tuned for the meth yet ;) I think that this represents a good example of power in a tune but loss of power with wheels ;) Rick and I talked about me switching out to my stockers and going again. I think the roles will be reversed with this test. I know my car is putting down more power with this tune then the stocker but you give up some to look to this pretty!

    The tweaks
    Overall this new R&D pulley is showing about 1 pound more of boost to 1.5. The tune from vortech is a bit more cutting edge and runs well. Again there is still more to be had. I feel the meth kit even with the kits pulley is well worth the money due to the drops in cylinder temps and IAT!
     
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    Yeah yeah yeah...lol...SMS will be coming :)
    No tweaks yet, going to see Johan as soon as these storms stop teasing us lol!
    I do have almost 2500 trouble free miles on the stock tune though, so we are ready to get it going now!
     
  11. LegMaker

    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    thanks for the feedback jon....... these tweeks with the pulley and tune going into the "standard" kit for people????
     
  12. MOL

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    these updates are not going to be part of the kit at this time, only further testing will tell.

    chris your right, i would not brag about being killed by a wagon if i were you.:p
     
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    LegMaker LMI - LegMakerIntakes

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    killed??????? please....... you will get soooo worked up at the chance to race, you will end up hitting the bag switch in a momentary loss of mental capacity from admiring my ride, and become an asphalt slow plow..........lol
     
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    MOL SHOW & PERFORMANCE

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    you might be right, the bag switch is near the nitrous switches. lol
     
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    Stretch Silver Supporting Members

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    Negative Sailor Boy.... Drew made the journey last Thursday.... definitely makes a difference.
     
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    HalV48 They Call Me Patron

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    Ok Rick, quick question.

    John said Jason said that John's car pulled like mine up top. How do you think any of the locals would do against my car running NA. John and Ralph have mentioned wanting to run me for giggles. I know from a dead with my DR's, it would be over very quickly. So what would you think from a roll?
     
  17. MotherMopar

    MotherMopar The One, The Only... MOMO

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    Hal, from a roll, we might be close... but I'm not making claims one way or the other.

    This additional 1-1.5 lbs made a big diff with my car... on the runs Rick wrote about, I'd get her down into 2nd once or twice and nail it... sure I was only in 2nd for .5 seconds, but none the less, she pulled like I was coming off the line.
     
  18. LegMaker

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    wow....... is it me, or does is seem a bit surreal to read jason talk like a big boy power guy now????? lol
     
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  19. HalV48

    HalV48 They Call Me Patron

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    I heard he got into the swing of it at Beach Burger last night.
     
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    Ya... it's like he must be at work or something where his wife's not around!