2 Challengers just royally embarassed the SRT-8 name

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by JMatt, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. Kevan

    Kevan SRT-10 Owner

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    Umm....with the MSRP of the GT-R around $70K, I'm going to guess that you mean "A pair of matching Challengers and a truck bed full of go-fast goodies".
     
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    StevoSRT Moderator

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    if theres no markup....with markup...who knows lol
     
  3. Kevan

    Kevan SRT-10 Owner

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    Oh...you want to play the mark-up card!
    GT-R's are rumored to be bringing MSRP + $60K!!!

    (That's $130K....so Ron doesn't have to go ask Maureen. LOL)
     
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    TNCHARGER Moderator

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    Just shows that the "driver" has more to do with the outcome of a race than the car.....I watched a Z06 run consistant 13s at the local track recently.....a car I know can hit high 10s with the right driver on the right track..
     
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    TNCHARGER Moderator

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    how fast a car is depends on many factors...the driver's ability, the track, elevation, weather conditions, etc, etc............fastest Z06 I have seen at my local track (Bristol, TN Thunder Valley) ran a 12.1........maybe one did better but that is the fastest I have seen.....and Bristol is considered a slow track by the guys that race........
     
  6. JMatt

    JMatt Platinum Supporting Member

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    Not this weekend. We have a little Nascar event in town using up all the track time. :sorry:

    I did take the opportunity to
    1) Change my oil (12 passes per oil change)
    2) Re-shim my starter - felt like it was a little too tight
    3) Wire in a delay box - I'm apparently too quick for "Pro" and need to move up to "Super Pro" but that class uses a delay box, and I had never wired mine up. Fixed that today. :happy:

    That's my point. I've been telling everyone that SRT-8's can run high 12's bone stock, and now all the Mustang and Camaro hacks will be watching these crappy runs on a national show. Just what I need.
     
  7. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

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    You know I think his ironic.
    I was AMAZED when I read it weighed almost the same as a full size SRT8. To me that is like a mustang weighing the same as a crown vic.
    The Challenger was not really well taken by the street racers when it originally came out. It was way too heavy.
    A 'Cuda could take it easily and even a '69 RoadRunner. Not to mention those Camaro's and Mustang's.
    Now it is out again and is suffering its fate of the past.
     
  8. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

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    By the way.... has anyone seen this video clip talking about the Challenger Drag Race Package car. It shows a nice 1/4 mile run. Did anyone hear about the race, I think I saw it but don't remember. I think the cars were only in the 12's and they had well known divers.
    http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2008/07/10/092606.html
     
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  9. Quick

    Quick Mgmt. - I can't help you

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    What does a delay box do?
     
  10. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

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  11. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

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  12. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

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    And everything you want to know about inagural outing of Drag Package Challengers...everything except time slips...figures.
    Quoted:

    "Mopar(R) Reveals Dodge Challenger Drag Race Package Cars at the 29th Annual Mopar Mile-High Nationals


    Challenger will thrill a new generation of motorsports enthusiasts

    CENTER LINE, Mich., July 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Mopar(R) is bringing the
    iconic Dodge Challenger muscle car to National Hot Road Association (NHRA)
    drag-racing competition. Mopar revealed two Dodge Challenger Drag Race
    Package Cars at the 29th Annual Mopar Mile-High Nationals today before
    thrilled fans at Bandimere Speedway in Morrison, Colo. Mopar Mile-High
    Nationals is the longest-running NHRA sponsorship.

    "Big Daddy" Don Garlits and Judy "Miss Mighty Mopar" Lilly were behind
    the wheels for their inaugural track run. Garlits drove the car featuring
    the Stone White paint scheme. Lilly was behind the wheel of the "Mopar
    Liquid Metal" prototype. NHRA named Garlits the #1 driver of the Top 50
    drivers from its first 50 years. His victories and accomplishments are
    virtually unmatched in drag-racing history. "Miss Mighty Mopar" is one of
    the female pioneers in drag racing. Spending 12 years on the NHRA circuit,
    Lilly is the only female driver to win two NHRA national events in one
    year.

    Mopar built the first two Challenger Drag Race Package Cars for
    development and testing for its new Challenger Package Car program. Based
    on the Challenger SRT8(R), the prototypes were finished in Stock Eliminator
    configuration. They ran successfully in June 2008 as proof-of-concept and
    for NHRA certification. Mopar dropped approximately 1,000 lbs. off the
    production Challenger SRT8 by eliminating major production components and
    systems. To accentuate the weight savings, they also feature added
    composite, polycarbonate and lightweight components designed for drag
    racing that will be part of the new Package Car program.

    The engine was repositioned to improve driveline angle and weight
    distribution. The 116-inch wheelbase was shortened by 1/2 inch. They also
    feature a front cradle with bolt-in crossmember and solid engine mounts.

    "Today is a great day for Mopar, Dodge, SRT, drag racers and
    motorsports enthusiasts everywhere. Not made for the streets, our
    drag-race-only Challengers will be running soon in NHRA competition - the
    best grassroots racing series in the world," said Sunil Lahoti, Mopar
    Marketing and Brand Manager, Chrysler LLC. "And who better to drive our new
    Challenger Package Cars on their inaugural track run than 'Big Daddy' and
    'Miss Mighty Mopar' -- the greatest drag racer of all time and a female
    pioneer of the sport."

    New Dodge Challenger Drag Race Package Car Program by Mopar

    The first drag-race, factory-prepped package cars built in 40 years,
    the new Challenger Drag Race Package Car by Mopar builds on the heritage of
    the limited-edition 1968 HEMI(R)-powered Package Cars. Those '68 Dodge
    Darts and Plymouth Barracudas solidified the Mopar brand as a quarter-mile
    force.

    Mopar will build a minimum of 100 Challenger Drag Race Package Cars to
    meet NHRA requirements.
    Based on the production Dodge Challenger SRT8,
    Mopar's modern factory-prepped Challenger Drag Race Package Car will begin
    as a special Body-in-White (BIW) from Chrysler's Brampton, Ontario, Canada
    assembly plant. The body sealer, sound deadener and undercoat will be
    eliminated. To reduce vehicle weight, major production component and
    systems will also be eliminated including: windshield wiper assembly,
    complete HVAC system, all airbag components, rear seats, power steering
    system, exhaust system and underbody heat shields, cross-car and side
    impact door beams, rear bumper beam and rear deck lid spoiler.


    The drag racer has three engine options -- 6.1-liter or 5.7-liter HEMI
    or 5.9-liter Magnum(R) Wedge -- as well as manual or automatic
    transmission.

    A build book/owner's manual will be provided to document the
    modifications made to the Challenger SRT8 as well as provide
    recommendations to finish the Package Car for Stock Eliminator competition.

    To accentuate weight savings, there are unique drag-race components in the
    Package Car program including: composite lift-off hood with functional
    scoop, Viper-style front seats, polycarbonate door windows, lightweight
    cooling module with electric fan, manual rack and pinion steering, special
    cable-operated deck lid release, special lightweight front brake assembly
    and special cable-operated throttle linkage and pedal assembly.


    The Challenger Drag Race Package Car will be eligible to run in three
    Eliminator categories -- Comp, Super Stock and Stock -- and potentially 40
    classes.

    Depending upon the configuration selected, the U.S. Manufacturer's
    Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the Challenger Drag Race Package Car
    program will range from the low to mid $30s. Each car will carry an
    identification plate with sequential serial number.

    The Challenger Drag Race Package Car will be available for order in
    late August to early September. A toll-free number will be designated for
    ordering. Details will be posted on http://www.mopar.com."


    SOURCE Chrysler LLC
     
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  13. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

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  14. The Max

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    I was attending an SRT experience and when the two challengers went by everybody was looking at those cars.

    They were beautiful!
     
  15. loxmith

    loxmith Recovering Post Whore...

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    Wow...I don't do the whole drag race thing, but I'm pretty sure even I could beat 14.8.
     
  16. turbosocks

    turbosocks srt n00b

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    never drag raced in my life, and im sure that with my pretty much stock skittle i could beat a 14.8 at a mile high.

    o, and the drag pack challengers.. WOW.. at a mile above sea level, running a 11.24, thats impressive.. probably around a mid to high 10 or so at sea level.
     
  17. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

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    My SRT8 (No Pedator tune but a B&G Stage II PCM) at CA Speedway last year was my first time in over 30 years (on a drag strip) and it was a 13.4/107. Next one was a 13.2/107. I thought I was slow and should have hit 12's (like most members were doing). This makes me feel good to think I could have run a 14.8.
     
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  18. SRT8

    SRT8 MoPower

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    A '70 Chally weighs ~3400lbs, & a Cuda is basically the same car both were E bodies which is a shortened version of the B bodies(Charger, RR, Coronet, etc). My '70 Charger R/T 440(B body) weighs ~3700lbs. I had a '68 Rustang 289 2bl, it weighed ~3300lbs. I just googled '70 Rustang, they can weigh 3900lbs.
     
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  19. NetNathan

    NetNathan Not the Momma

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    Then I guess there was a suspension setup problem, or the '70s is where the extra weight came from. In the '70s a Chally had a hard time holding its own against '69 muscle cars, and I could have sworn '70s muscle cars.
    Or the cars I saw racing were already slightly modded. My'69 "Street Dart" (440 6-pack) was very heavily modded so I won't count it.
     
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  20. JMatt

    JMatt Platinum Supporting Member

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    You release a button as soon as you see the first light. The delay box waits a programmed amount of time before releasing the transbrake and launching the car. That was you get very quick, very repeatable reaction times.

    I finished wiring and programming mine in yesterday.