No More Border Fence!!!!!!!!!

There goes the neighborhood... well again at least... at least you won't have to cramb them in your trunk anymore then!

 

not goin anywhere near this one with a 20 foot stick haha...

 

Ya... who cares about a little lead paint anyway!

 

hahaha...its just a rough argument to make as you so rightly pointed out either way you see it...

i believe (like you) that it has its positives but negatives as well...while i do not live in a border state i live in an area of NY that has a large "undocumented" population and again...there are positives and negatives...

 

I'm too ignorant on this subject to make a valid point...the media has saturated me with negativity and the downsides...living in Canada and having worked for a Health Care Fraud Investigation Unit (we have public health care for those not in the know)...I use to see Americans (coming to Canada on American Holidays when they had the day off lol) trying to register for health care, often with false documentation. It's unfortunate that many were very sick....very old....often terminal. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERY AMERICAN GET PUBLIC HEALTH CARE.

 

NY state is trying to implement something...nobody really believes its going to work though haha...

the problem is is that the insurance companies will most likely be forced to provide their services at a lesser price and at a higher quality...which hits them where it hurts...which is why its such a pain in the ass...

i know one of the reason that "undocumented" people living in our area are causing such an uproar with the locals is that essentially, they are getting "free health care" being paid for by our taxes...there has been a lot of news stories (especially recently) about this topic...

one of the quotes that is made in these stories about "undocumented" people in the united states is that "the money you save having them do the work someone else would at a higher price you pay for in increasing taxes for programs designed to assist them". This makes sense to me in that they are not paying taxes as they are almost always paid off the books and so theres an increase in the number of people who need things like health care without increasing the amount of money collected to support them.

The two things that get to me about this subject is the not paying taxes, and the workers making no attempt to assimilate. I really do not mean to offend anyone by this, but the truth is, the areas that have a high population of the undocumented workers has significantly declined. It has taken towns that were at one point very nice, clean, and safe towns or areas and brought them down quite a bit. I would also like to see some of the workers learn basic English regardless of where they came from. If they are not planning on staying for the rest of their lives, i don't need them to be fluent. I would just like to see them to have the ability to have some basic communications, epically related to whatever they do.

Again, I do not mean to offend anyone and I apologize if i have, but this is the reality of what I see with my own eyes every day. It does get frustrating and some of the news stories I read can really upset you. Again, I don't think I am asking anything overly unreasonable when it comes to them. I also cant speak for other places in the country, just what I see in Westchester, NY.

So please, don't take offense to my comments. :friends:

 

:bang:there's so much to say about this and has been! there was a bill passed to build 854 miles of two tiered fence from Calif. to Arizona by may, in the next few days Presidente Bush will sign a bill that guts the bill that everyone wanted, and after only 5 and a half miles of fence were built! this new bill he's signing also sends over 1 billon dollars south of the border to help fight Cartel crime? while law enforcement down there helps the Cartels dig tunnels under the border. Something really has to be done, my oppinion is we need to change our government back to people who govern and serve. :help:

 

I say build a bigger and more secure fence...

 

i just want the people who come here to pay some taxes...and not make the towns they live in look like some hole in the ground run down town in BF nowhere mexico...as long as they are not a financial drain on me...i really dont care if theres a fence or if we stop people...

i dont think asking them to pay taxes like everyone else who is here, speak English, and assimilate in some way to the way we live in whatever area they happen to go to is too much to ask...

 

I 2nd that 100%....:usflag:

 

like i said...i will limit what i say to what i see wiht my own eyes...

i cant say anything about if they pay taxes or not around here...

however, there are 4 areas around where i live that were very nice places BEFORE the illegals came...as more and more moved into the area more and more people moved out, now many businesses have closed and there is literally garbage on the streets and houses run down...the crime rate for these areas is ridiculous compared to the surrounding towns...for the first 15-20 years my family has lived in this area it has been a great place to live...but its going down hill fast and this is not a stereo type...it is because of the illegals...the worst part is...they wont even let the cops do anything about it...

like i said...i dont care if they are here...i just dont want them destroying my towns

 

THANKS BROTHA...i knew i could count on you! hahaha :friends: