STS Turbo Kits (Single and Twin) Coming Soon ... Click for Insider Info & Spy Shots!

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  1. Speedlogix

    Speedlogix BMC is now Speedlogix

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    STS did the dyno test on the single turbo which yielded a 50-60% gain over stock. Now that the twin turbo is installed, we'll see what kind of results come from it!

    Like I said in my first post, all the STS kits are capable of blowing any stock engine. The key is a good tune for maximum power that the engine can handle, while preserving the safety. That's why we're seeing the STS kits come out only now that tuning is out for the HEMI cars.
     
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    Speedlogix BMC is now Speedlogix

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    This is Lisa. :thumb2:
     
  3. SRT8U

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    There goes that free turbo kit you were going to get Chris lmao!:guns:
     
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    Bud GG EVO IX MR

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    Hehehe.....LMAO!!! :pleasantry:
     
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    NetNathan Not the Momma

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    Jees...
    Why did they start with a 5.7L test car? Why not an 6.1L SRT?
     
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    Seems like everyone does that....Headers, Cat Backs, Superchargers, Turbos. To be honest one of the delays was finding a test car...so they probably took what they could get, plus there are more 5.7's than 6.1's. There shouldn't be too many differences, the routing of the tubes and mounting will all be the same, the main difference will be the tuning. I was about ready to ship mine out to Utah.
     
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    Probably also more %HP gain with the 5.7L and obviously more of them.
     
  8. Speedlogix

    Speedlogix BMC is now Speedlogix

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    I'll be keeping this thread updated for sure, and once pricing is released and a FIRM release date, we'll form a list of those who want a kit at a discounted initial purchase price. There will be tuning to go along with the kit, but of course like you mentioned, a custom dyno tune is ideal, especially if there are other mods on the car. I will see who STS suggests in your area for the install as I am sure that's a bit far to bring your car down here.
     
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    If you are going to run some high boost than I would definitely Forge!!
     
  10. Kevan

    Kevan SRT-10 Owner

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    Sleeper's correct.
    Every one that's been put on the SRT-10 trucks has either been removed or blown an engine.
    The last remaining one *was* tuned. Repeatedly. Over more than 2 years time. It shredded a #9 cylinder a couple of weeks ago.

    I know it's not your product, but you might want to save some overhead and not carry the SRT-10 kits. It'll save you return hassles too. :)

    I'm sure the HEMI guys will benefit from the single and twin kits due to the immense popularity, cost-effectiveness, and all the aftermarket goodies and technology available for those engines.
    With the Viper stuff, everything is so damn limited....and expensive!

    I just got a message from the owner of 'Inciner8tor'.
    He said, "Damn...that's a lot of plumbing!"
    :laugh:
     
  11. Kevan

    Kevan SRT-10 Owner

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    It's definitely more work and maintenance.
    My other concern would be drastic lag, due to the distance the pressurized air needs to travel.
    On the plus side, you do remove the heat generated by the turbo(s) out of the engine bay. With the turbos 'all by themselves' back by the spare tire cavity, they'll probably get decent airflow around them, helping keep them (slightly) cooler.
    I honestly haven't spent much time under an LX hood, but I'm pretty sure there is. It also depends on the size of the turbos you're running.
    If there's not enough room, get one of the badass CF hoods from BMC. Problem solved. LOL
     
  12. NYCSRTATE

    NYCSRTATE Maximus Want 2 Go Fastius

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    Curtis last thing you want is the turbos under the hood with the heat these 6.1's generate.
     
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    My thoughts exactly!
     
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    Here is some more info from STS about the benefits of their PATENTED rear mount technology.

    Remote Mount Turbo

    So you've heard something about remote-mounted turbo chargers. Now it's time to learn why the STS turbo system is the new performance standard, giving you the ease of a remote-mounted system and the performance stats of the best superchargers and turbo chargers. See what an STS remote-mounted turbo charger can do for you.

    STS remote-mounted turbo chargers beat those under the hood for a number of reasons. Put a turbo charger in your already crowded engine compartment and you're pushing the design limits of your vehicle to operate at that temperature. The heat issue is huge, which is why STS mounts the turbo charger under the vehicle. Without any additional lag or major modifications to perform, your engine stays cool, and the engine compartment remains simple and easy to maintain.

    The STS turbo charger can be installed by someone with average mechanical ability in about eight hours, and converted back to stock in just an hour. You'll get a monster performance sound, plus around 5 psi of boost with the basic turbo kit and up to 20 psi of boost with additional tuning and upgrades. Most of our customers tell us they wish they'd found us first, before installing other systems.

    Check out our video demos on the site, read any of our many reviews in the hot rod mags, and find out which pros are running the STS turbo system on their cars, trucks, and SUVs. See for yourself why the aftermarket performance industry itself got a boost when STS turbo systems came onto the scene.

    With the turbo located in the rear of the vehicle, is there turbo lag?


    No, due to extensive engineering and proper sizing of the turbos and piping, the turbochargers operate very well at this remote location. All of our systems will produce full boost below 3000 rpm. If you were to take a front-mount turbo system and place it at the rear, you would have lag issues, and similarly, our turbo system wouldn't work properly if front-mounted. Also, our intake tubing volume is about the same as most conventional turbo setups that are running a front-mounted intercooler, and is less than many of them that run large intercoolers. Our system is not like a small compressor filling up a large air tank, it is like a huge compressor filling up a very small volume. Our systems compress the intake tubing in about .05 seconds. If our patented and innovative rear-mounted technolgy had problems with turbo lag, we would not have the large number of happy customers that we have today. Please visit our Testimonials page for more insight.

    Without a muffler/resonator, how does the vehicle sound?

    The turbo does an amazing job of muffling sound. Most people think it sounds like a performance muffler. You can still add a high flow muffler to the system, but most of our customers like the performance sound with just the turbo.

    Isn't there a huge pressure drop with such long intake tubes?


    No, if the pipes were 100' long there would be but we are only talking a few extra feet and we size the charge air tubing so that it will flow without a large pressure drop. We typically will get about 1/4 to 3/4 lb difference between the turbo compressor and the intake manifold, which is nothing compared to the pressure drop across an intercooler. With high boost applications, these numbers will increase slightly.

    How efficient is the intercooling from your tubing?

    At 5 to 6 psi we typically get at least 50% intercooler efficiency numbers from our systems and some of the truck systems which have better exposure to cold air are even better. Combine this with a pressure drop of only about 1/4 to 3/4 psi and it makes for very good numbers.

    Testing on our LS1 produced the following results:

    Turbo outlet temps at 5 psi boost were 175F and intake temps were 115F which is about 52% efficient.

    Turbo outlet temps at 8 psi boost were 225F. This is a 50F increase with only 3 psi added to turbocharger boost.

    For those wanting to run more boost we recommend a front mounted intercooler. We sell bolt-on solutions for the Hemi and the GTO. We will be coming out with more applications soon.

    What type of coating is on the pipes?

    All of the intake pipes are HPC coated. HPC coating is the leader in thermal coatings. They look great and they don't rust. For more information visit - http://www.hpcoatings.com/
     
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  15. TheSickness

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    I was going to just PM this to the thread starter but I believe the info needs to be made public. Mind you I am not bashing the vendor either. The STS system as far as I know has only been successful on Corvettes w/o causing catastrophic engine failure. The STS manufactured for the SRT10 has blown every engine it's been applied to the last one biting the dust just last week and he got 27,000 miles on it before losing the # 3 piston. When making this purchase guys make damn sure you purchase a controller and invest in a goof fuel management system to go with it.

    It's attractive because it's a cheaper way to go fast but from all I have seen over the past 5 years this system has cost people alot of cash. 6 SRT10's have bit the dust trying to get the system to work properly and on the VTCOA we warn everyone about trying or buying the systems. I do not believe there is solid engineering backround on the product and they tend to have major wastegate issues. I am not trying to flame anyone but rather putting out info that needs to be considered before making the purchase. I am quite sure BMC knows their business and in no way am I saying anything against them at all. I always tend to stay silent on Performance threads but IMHO this system will only cause you heart ache in the end :blowup:
     
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    So bizarre to see Mikey post in a tech thread.
    Might take me a minute to get my bearings.......

    (muffler bearings!)

    I'm curious to see what happens to the test Charger that's got the twin STS on it.
    I hope it has better luck (and performance) than the SRT-10's had.
     
  17. Whitesnake

    Whitesnake what? u drive a ford? lol

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    i agree with the Sickness (dam i must be lossing my head) but all i have heard is BOOM baby BOOM!!! check more on it before you guys buy it? just my .02 cents in this .....STINKER were in the Fucc are you...he could give you guys better info on this!!!......i don't know if i get in trouble but, here it goes....there is a vendor on the VTCOA site that makes turbo's for our trucks and i have not heard any bad news...i don't know if he's on here but i would not post up his name...... (don't want to shit with any one) but i know one guy had a 88mm turbo on his truck and the mother runs like hell!!! gooood luck to the one that buy this system! like i said before "ask the STINKER" he know's his Shit!!!!! :sorry::sorry::sorry::sorry::sorry::sorry::sorry:
     
  18. Speedlogix

    Speedlogix BMC is now Speedlogix

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    Mikey, thanks for your comments, and I am glad you posted rather than PM'd as I would rather have this discussion out in the open so everyone can stay on the same page. To be honest, I am not overly aware of the truck set-up and how those vehicles were built or how they were tuned, so I can't comment specifically. However, in all the stories I've read about all kinds of engines letting go, it's generally a tuning issue or a weak part causing the failure. As I said in the first post, all the STS turbo kits are capable of blowing a motor, and I would wager that is true for most of the FI products on the market for all vehicles. These turbos (and superchargers too) don't cause an engine to blow, but the tune calling for more boost than the internals can handle or not enough fuel to balance the forced air intake do. So, the key is in the tuning and the tuner knowing enough about the engine and the tuning software so that maximum SAFE power is achieved. When we sell these kits, I'll do whatever I can to ensure the customer receives information on who is skilled in their area to tune, and with the custom tuning options of Diabo and SCT, I am sure these kits will fare much better than those who have run them un-tuned in the past. As always, I'll keep you posted on the release and do my best to answer questions.

    Thanks,
    Lisa.
     
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    Speedlogix BMC is now Speedlogix

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