Help! Someone please explain...

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  1. MotherMopar

    MotherMopar The One, The Only... MOMO

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    Please explain to Ryan why just getting 'springs' (instead of the coilovers)
    to lower his car is a foolish and cheap way to get the lowered look on our LX SRT8's.

    He's also hel bent on talking about Eibach coilovers as an option, not KW.

    Someone talk sense into this fool. I tire of his bantering.
     
  2. Quick

    Quick Mgmt. - I can't help you

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    Ok.

    Shorter springs are bad. This is the kind of hack that kids do to their first car/junker to make it look ghetto. Besides we (at least on the Magnum?) have those things in back that pump themselves up so it doesn't work.

    I haven't heard anything bad about the Eibach's? In fact I thought that guy who got them was pretty happy. Was it the Eibach's or the Bilstein's that have the in-cab damper adjustment that Rick was considering (or at least what you were considering for Rick's car).


    Translation: Yet another mod that got axed
     
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  3. diegochrysler

    diegochrysler Jose"GR8CHORIZO"Jalapeno

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    Oh please,

    Look whose talking! Your scared of your own shadow in your house. Yvonne blocked your internet access at home to GSM, Eibach, Mopar, PPP, CUSTOM LICENSE PLATE FRAMES and all rainbow colored adult book stores. Let me and my soon to be mods, whatever they may be alone TATTOO. You just need to yell when the plane is about to land!!!


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  4. MotherMopar

    MotherMopar The One, The Only... MOMO

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    Ryan:

    Now that you're done bashing... try and learn something:

    Springs alone will NOT lower your car. Your car came stock with self-adjusting shocks, chooch. I'm trying to help a brother out and look what I get!
     
  5. HalV48

    HalV48 They Call Me Patron

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    Don't do it. I have Eibach Pro's on my Z28, but would never consider them for my SRT8. If all you want is a lower stance, that's one thing, but going backwards on your cars handling abilities would be a bad thing.
     
  6. MotherMopar

    MotherMopar The One, The Only... MOMO

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    Oh, don't worry, Ryan (a fuking LX rookie) won't listen worth a dam... he'll have Eibach springs (not even their coilovers) on his car within 3 months.

    He still insists that Eibach makes KW. Stubborn I tell you.
     
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    Quick Mgmt. - I can't help you

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    The KW1's will lower the car. The 2's add the rebound (and damper?) adjustment. I really haven't heard of much anyone doing a lot of rebound/damper adjustment with their 2's. I believe most go with the standard setting and are very happy with it. I think that's what Rick did and hasn't changed it yet. Chris has his car pretty much slammed with the 1's. You could ask him.
     
  8. diegochrysler

    diegochrysler Jose"GR8CHORIZO"Jalapeno

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    Jason my bald height challenged little buddy,

    I'm not stubborn. You trust your information and I trust mine. My buddy at Street Concepts is good friends with a higher up at Eibach and he told him they make the KW's. I'm not here to take sides or tell someone they are wrong. This is an unknown area for me. Like getting mods for your car, it's an unknown area!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. 1fastsedan

    1fastsedan Destroyer of Warranties

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    Hey Ryan,

    Send me the couple hundred dollars you'll spend on Eibach springs, then go outside and take a picture of your stock ride height because that is what you'll end up with anyway (at least in the back). If you want it dropped, you have to take the Nivomats out of the rear. Sorry, no cheap way to do this one unless you get a R/T(or 300C) take-off suspension and then put the lowering springs on. But you're taking a significant step backwards in handling at that point.
     
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    1fastsedan Destroyer of Warranties

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    They may possibly make the springs for the KWs coil-overs, but not the shocks. In fact Eibach's coil-overs use a KW V1 shock in them with Eibach springs. Maybe that's what your guy is talking about, the coil-overs - not the lowering springs?
     
  11. Dysphagia

    Dysphagia Full Access Member

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    just putting springs on car is a bad idea for two reasons, 1) it forces the struts to operate outside thier range of motion, causing premature failure. 2) most of the time the spring rate is completely mismatched for the car and struts, making the car handle worse than stock. both of these concerns are a much bigger problem on a heavier car like the 8.
     
  12. diegochrysler

    diegochrysler Jose"GR8CHORIZO"Jalapeno

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    Adam,

    The Eibach coil overs will drop the car through right! I'm waiting to see the price I'm giving on the coil overs before I decide on anything. I would love to get the KW's, but I'm debating on where to spend the dinero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    1fastsedan Destroyer of Warranties

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    Yes, Eibach coil-overs (not lowering springs) will successfully lower your ride because they replace all the shocks/struts too. If you're looking for cheaper coil-overs, check out ST suspensions, Eibach, and Tein - they're all cheaper than KWs.
     
  14. diegochrysler

    diegochrysler Jose"GR8CHORIZO"Jalapeno

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    Thanks Bro!
     
  15. MotherMopar

    MotherMopar The One, The Only... MOMO

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    Oh that's lower than Drew at the Brass Rail.

    You know I'm just bustin your balz. I'm just jealous.
     
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    Stretch Silver Supporting Members

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    Just add a large subwoofer enclosure in the trunk and it'll lower itself!
     
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    Dookie Foe twenny sics

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    New coilover front and REAR are in the works and R&D is nearly complete...dunno what the cost will be versus the KW's, but i saw the basic of the design at SEMA...they are way easier to adjust in the rear than the KW's...you may want to sit on this a while and see what transpires...

    That said...I LOVE my KW V2's...one of my top 3 of many many mods...
     
  18. 1fastsedan

    1fastsedan Destroyer of Warranties

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    Kyle, what company was that? I was at SEMA, but the biggest LX suspension product(s) I saw was Pedder's bushings, sways, and dampners - but they're not height adjustable. Did I miss something?
     
  19. ChargerGirl

    ChargerGirl Mama / DB Geek / Driver

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    I try and live by the addage of you get what you pay for. If you don't pay much, you don't get much. And I would not being getting all cheapskate when it comes to my suspension. Scary!
     
  20. StevoSRT

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    i agree 100%...almost as bad as cheaping out on breaks!